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the g600 g500s and all corsair mice but the m40 have garbage sensors
post #12 of 69
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So I'm really keen now on buying the Corsair Vengeance M65 in Gunmetal Black because through research I've seen too many people complaining from the material from which the white version is made of as well as the finish on the white version is different and some say worse than the Black version. Also through research I knew that there was a problem with the Avago ADNS-9800 sensor but that has been fixed by the latest firmware and driver release.

Is all what I have mentioned correct and good??
    
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What do you all think about it???!
    
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post #14 of 69
It's a very bad mouse + - 8% accel and still high input lag. It was fixed only partially and can never be fixed to good responsive level.
Better buy m40, it has good sensor.
post #15 of 69
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I'm sorry but could you explain further
I prefer to have an Avago 3090 sensor versus an Avago 9500/9800 sensor because of "positive acceleration" present in the 9500/9800.
post #16 of 69
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It's a very bad mouse + - 8% accel and still high input lag. It was fixed only partially and can never be fixed to good responsive level.Better buy m40, it has good sensor.

Can you confirm that based on personal experience, does it really feel that much lagging??
    
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post #17 of 69
I don't know anything about input lag, but the sensor of the M65 is an ADNS-9800, which has positive acceleration that is unable to turned off. I would recommend avoiding mice with positive acceleration for FPS games, as the acceleration makes it harder to learn muscle memory. This acceleration has NOT been fixed through a firmware update. Also, I think that the M40's PCS is lower than comparable A3090 mice. I personally would get the Kana v2 if forced to make a choice.
post #18 of 69
Are you meaning input lag as a "smoothing" algorithm used to prevent jitter? Do you use high C.P.I. with an M65, KoldWar?

For my own personal reference, would you get a Kone Pure Optical instead of a warranted Kana V2?
Edited by L4dd - 9/6/13 at 5:35pm
post #19 of 69
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Are you meaning input lag as a "smoothing" algorithm used to prevent jitter?

Most likely, yes.
post #20 of 69
Whether you'll be affected by the smoothing applied in mice based upon ADNS-9800 is absolutely down to you as an individual. Most people will probably still consider it usable or, more likely, not even feel cursor "floating" caused by the inherent algorithm.

You really won't know until you try. I tried about ten mice in the last month, as I am attempting to find a new one, too. Acceleration in ADNS-9500 based mice was absolutely no issue for me, especially Sensei RAW still felt perfectly fine to me.

Corsair M65 and especially Logitech G500s dragged behind quite notably before being updated, after installing the newest firmware versions they were usable. ANDS-9500 and ADNS-3090 variants still felt somewhat "better" to me, although I could not physically pin down, why.


I would suggest you to order whatever you are interested in. For the most part, I think, ergonomics are the most important aspect to consider. Whether you will be satisfied by the way the mouse reacts to movement and the feel the sensor provides, is something nobody will be able to answer properly.
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