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If the details in the document are accurate, the HTTPS and SSL encryption used by most email and banking services offers little to no protection against NSA surveillance.
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The articles detail a decade-long NSA project to attack encryption standards from every angle, employing server farms for brute-force decryption, using malware to intercept messages before encryption could take place, and working from within the tech industry to ensure the adoption of protocols that would be easier to circumvent.

Source: http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/5/4698808/most-common-encryption-protocols-are-useless-against-nsa-surveillance

Wait till hackers get their hands on https and SSL encryption cracking... rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by ryansoh3 View Post


Source: http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/5/4698808/most-common-encryption-protocols-are-useless-against-nsa-surveillance

Wait till hackers get their hands on https and SSL encryption cracking... rolleyes.gif


the people who are legit, Probably already have that, And have had it for a long time.
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Wait till hackers get their hands on https and SSL encryption cracking... rolleyes.gif
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HTTPS and SSL encryption used by most email and banking services offers little to no protection

They already did, they're just US government "hackers"
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I have the 100% hack proof algorithm:

- unplug Ethernet cable from computer

Works every time.
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It's not a shock. I mean we pride ourselves in believing that our NSA is able to get into secure file servers and sniff out terrorists but then we balk at the fact that they've got the same capability of doing the same thing to your private data? They've been doing this for years and you were fine and not affected in any way. Except maybe some lost sleep at night worrying about prying eyes.
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I've never taken pride in the capabilities or even existence of the NSA. Maybe they served a worthwhile purpose during the Cold War. Now, they tax me for security I do not need, and never asked for, to protect from a threat that is less an imminent danger to my ideals of well-being than the NSA itself is.
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I've never taken pride in the capabilities or even existence of the NSA. Maybe they served a worthwhile purpose during the Cold War. Now, they tax me for security I do not need, and never asked for, to protect from a threat that is less an imminent danger to my ideals of well-being than the NSA itself is.

debatable. I'm not fond of this, but the landscape of defense is changing. Kinetic warfare is subsiding to the impact of Information Warfare. Tactics and expectations of national security from 100 years ago is not relevant in "information warfare".

NSA isn't there to block viruses for you. They're looking for keywords and targeting people of interest. Stopping THOSE people from carrying out their objective will/could stop an ECONOMIC catostrophe, which affects us all, regardless of your ideology...

NSA's involvement in your life is nothing more than a police offer sitting with a speed camera by the highway....he's not tracking you, he's not following you, he doesn't know you, he's just keeping his eye on that radar for specific MPH readings...

"OMG THEY SEE ME DRIVING TO WORK! WHERE'S MY PRIVACY?!?!"
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Stopping THOSE people from carrying out their objective will/could stop an ECONOMIC catostrophe, which affects us all, regardless of your ideology..

Propping up a flawed and overly fragile system rather than letting it suffer mishaps that could be learned from is not a worthy service, IMO.
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NSA's involvement in your life is nothing more than a police offer sitting with a speed camera by the highway....he's not tracking you, he's not following you, he doesn't know you, he's just keeping his eye on that radar for specific MPH readings...

I disagree. The NSA's capabilities for information gathering, and power to abuse such information, far outstrip the police in this scenario.

Not that I need police enforcement of speed limits, or much else, either.
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It's not a shock. I mean we pride ourselves in believing that our NSA is able to get into secure file servers and sniff out terrorists but then we balk at the fact that they've got the same capability of doing the same thing to your private data? They've been doing this for years and you were fine and not affected in any way. Except maybe some lost sleep at night worrying about prying eyes.

This arguement is so dumb. After the "I have nothing to hide" brigade. The "It has been going on for years, so why start caring now" troupe. Really is on the next rung of stupidity.
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NSA isn't there to block viruses for you. They're looking for keywords and targeting people of interest. Stopping THOSE people from carrying out their objective will/could stop an ECONOMIC catostrophe, which affects us all, regardless of your ideology...

Yeah lol. They did such a good job at preventing the last economic catastrophe.
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This arguement is so dumb. After the "I have nothing to hide" brigade. The "It has been going on for years, so why start caring now" troupe. Really is on the next rung of stupidity.
Yeah lol. They did such a good job at preventing the last economic catastrophe.

Because it's the NSA's job to prevent the housing bubble and debt ceiling from popping and going to crap?

HAH.

Please, I can't inhale that much of a drink up my nose without serious nasal issues today, and I don't want that.

And yeah, the "I have nothing to hide" brigade (as you call it) is PERFECTLY FOUNDED in their belief.
Are you an average person? Then the collection of your data will NEVER IMPACT YOUR LIFE.
Are you a person that seeks or plans to do damage or harm to the U.S. and her assets? Then the goal of these programs is to weed that out and eliminate it.


Don't really understand how that's so hard to get... thinking.gif





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