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making extreme generalizations for an argument makes them very hard to refute or even respond to coherently. i would say it does serve the purpose of classifying people to some degree (ie people that have some sort of violent intention AND foreign backing due to the fact it is the NSA and therefore has foreign intentions). que the vague apocalyptic warning that tinfoil hats love so much. i mean que it again, since you already gave me one.

that said how could this possibly lead to a fat tax? there has to be a better, more accurate way of determining if someone is obese than monitoring their internet....we could simply tax fatty foods perhaps. could and should as soon as possible. i mean we tax cigarettes. this would be dual purpose since it would not only lower my healthcare cost but make the midwest a much more aesthetically pleasing place for me to live in. win win!

The fat tax is already coming, it was included in the Health Care reform and will be based on BMI. Those who exceed a certain BMI will have to go through counseling (Dr. or professional). That's already on the books.

Now imagine you are that 350 lb guy, and all you want is to sneak a bag of cheetos, only now big brother says "Nope, not on your diet plan", or "ok, but now your employer will pay even less of your insurance premiums, or cut you to 29 hours/ wk which will then land you on a government or private plan that is even more expensive".

All the dude wants is a bag of cheetos, so he has a friend buy them for him, sends him a text "yo man, I NEED some CHEETOS!!! the hot ones" and now instead of his friend showing up at his door at 10 p.m. he gets a call from his counselor.

You see the issue here? He will never eat cheetos until he is skinny, if he hasn't fallen victim to depression by then.
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well, it may be far fetched, but I know what he's talking about.

He's referring to Obama care (ish)

How they'll have all your health information at the touch of a button. They can see that you're a burden on tax payer money because of your health records, so the next time you go to the grocery store to pick up a .99 cent snickers bar, it'll actually be a $1.50 specifically for you.

I've heard of this example before. No different than a health insurance company not wanting to insure smokers, or accept them and charge them higher premiums; however, instead of telling the insurance company that you're a smoker during your sign up process, they'd just already know because they have all of your medical records.

but that just sounds overly complex and needless and they'd have to give every convenience store access to your medical history. it wouldn't fly and it's unnecessary, when they could simply tax unhealthy food across the board. which they should. there are social implications (healthcare) to obesity, just as there are to smoking.
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You see the issue here? He will never eat cheetos until he is skinny, if he hasn't fallen victim to depression by then.

making it more expensive for the obese to eat themselves to death, thereby discouraging the behavior, just as we do for smokers and alcoholics? oh god the horror.

and smokers/alcoholism aren't even conditions that afflict 60% of the adult population
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making it more expensive for the obese to eat themselves to death, thereby discouraging the behavior, just as we do for smokers and alcoholics? oh god the horror. and those aren't even conditions that afflict 60% of the adult population

Has anyone ever mentioned that your incessant appealing to ridicule gets extremely tiresome? Because it does.

Either argue in good faith or don't argue.
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wasnt there a fairly recent president ( 20 - 30yrs ago) that used these sorts of powers to corrupt government thinking.gifthinking.gif
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This has gotten way too political for OCN.
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