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I am looking for a good card for arround $100usd. I see the extreme gamer version and then there is the audigy 4 which I have not heard much about which is better? The gamer model has some sort of headphones thing which sounds interesting but I am not 100% certain. I really do not use 5.1 sound but do plan on using the mic jack so if anyone h as had any trouble with the half hight XFi cards let me know. The audigy 4 kinda confuses me a bit. Why did they make it if Xfi is the leading model? I currently have a audigy and am happy with it I just killed the mic jack by getting up with a headset on

Is the xfi gamer edition going to give me more FPS than the audigy4?

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The XtremeGamer doesn't have any special headphones connectivity, in fact it has less connection ports than other X-Fi cards. Basically the Audigy 4 is an older card (released before X-Fi's were around) so it's cheaper, but it has a better internal DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) than the XtremeGamer. However, even though it has the same DAC as the high end X-Fi Elite Pro, it automatically resamples your music which lowers the sound quality ever so slightly. For gaming the X-Fi XtremeGamer has support for EAX 5.0 while the older Audigy 4 only supports EAX 4.0. The XtremeGamer also comes with little features that may or may not be for you (24-Bit Crystalizer, Bit-Matched Playback, etc.) which are not available in the Audigy 4.

Basically Audigy 4 has better sound for music and movies while X-Fi XtremeGamer is better suited for gaming. But both does everything well though but there are better sound cards under $100 if gaming is not as important as sound quality.

Hope this wasn't confusing
    
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I do Audiovisual for a living so you will have trouble confusing me

I dont watch movies on my pc. I dont do much more than ripping CDs to put onto my mp3players and creating mix CDs so I guess you are saying that the x-fi is better. I actually like the lower profile due to the chance that it might be next to the second video card I get in my next setup. IF i go SLI or CrossFire.

EDIT:::: Heard something about the xtremegmaer had a function for stereo headphones at duplicating something like nine channels

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X-Fi CMSS-3D Headphone creates nine virtual speakers over stereo headphones for positional audio that's so accurate you'll swear you're in a room full of speakers. Multichannel speakers are even better with audio cues that are so accurate you can actually locate enemies by sound.
    
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Ah, the CMSS-3D feature for X-Fi cards is surprisingly good for gaming, but it's not as good for listening to music. The Audigy 4 has this as well except that the X-Fi has an updated version similar to X-Fi's having an updated EAX.

Besides Creative cards you may want to check out the M-Audio Revolution 5.1 which has a very good DAC (same as professional cards like ESI Juli@) and support for EAX 2.0. It has much better sound quality than any X-Fi or Audigy with no resampling and has EAX support for gaming (EAX is made for Creative cards).
    
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Ah, the CMSS-3D feature for X-Fi cards is surprisingly good for gaming, but it's not as good for listening to music. The Audigy 4 has this as well except that the X-Fi has an updated version similar to X-Fi's having an updated EAX.

Besides Creative cards you may want to check out the M-Audio Revolution 5.1 which has a very good DAC (same as professional cards like ESI Juli@) and support for EAX 2.0. It has much better sound quality than any X-Fi or Audigy with no resampling and has EAX support for gaming (EAX is made for Creative cards).
I dont listen to much music on my gaming PC. As for recording I would be going directly from the CD to the hard drive or to the media player device. I don tthink the sound card as much to do with that compared to the software that is actually recording it.
    
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If you're not in a hurry to get it. You could watch deals on the Xtreme Music. All the options of Xtreme Gamer plus the connections. Its discontinued though so it might be a bit hard to find..

EDIT: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=290236
89.99 after rebate or
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Then the X-Fi XtremeGamer is the way to go for your gaming machine
    
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I will be honest. My current audigy does fine by me. I just need the mic again for ventrillo and teamspeak. I am not spending much but wouldn't mind having something nice.
    
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i had an audigy 2 then i switched over to the audigy 4.....had it three months and switched over to the x-fi platinum....thought it had x-ram but when i found out it didn't i wanted to return the x-fi,and did not have enough money for the fatality version, took it out, put my audigy4 back and put on a mp3....listen....shut down my computer...put back the x-fi......it has not left eversince, i find it a very good card but thats my opinion on the card............its hooked on a home theater, 5.1 playing doom/fear was never scarier....lol
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