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Hi guys,

Just built a computer for a friend, and they want their old computer to go to their niece. However, this computer is by today's standards a dinosaur, so I told them I would seriously have to upgrade it if they wanted to make it an everyday use computer.

This is it:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00245801&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&prodSeriesId=450204&prodTypeId=12454

It's just as you'd suspect for an old computer. Freezes for 15 minutes once you boot it up, and still runs slow after that. I was thinking about getting a bigger hard drive and memory, but the hard drive is IDE and the max supported RAM is 1GB DDR1. There really is no room for upgrade. I would have to get a new processor, motherboard, and hard drive, maybe even a new power supply depending on the wattage and a new disk drive if I can't find a Sata female to IDE male adaptor for it.

Currently, what is the cheapest newer cpu (with integrated graphics) that I can get for everyday use with Windows 7? Nothing more, it's for a kid, so we want to be as cheap as possible. I'm looking at both Intel and AMD. Do you think I would need a new power supply as well? And is there an adapter that plugs right into the back of an IDE drive, that I can plug SATA into on the other end? So far I've seen either external or PCI-E drives that do this.

Thanks!
Edited by apav - 9/7/13 at 6:41am
post #2 of 9
idk if you can get it to a point it could run 7 smoothly. possibly 7 basic or if you are lucky home premium

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Athlon-2800-Socket-Processor/dp/B000YQNKD4 this CPU is only slightly better, make sure the cpu can be upgraded and is not soldered to the board.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145502 two of these RAM cards is the max the laptop would support, and that is about as much upgrade as you can do

http://www.amazon.com/CoolGear%C2%AE-Drive-Adapter-Laptop-Drives/dp/B004ETGOCG this would let you use a modern hard drive

edit: that ram is the max speed and size supported, i would recommend upgrading that and the hard drive first, and seeing if the current CPU can handle it alright. the only difference with the Athlon XP is that it has more cache over the sempron processor
post #3 of 9
Honestly, I'm not sure it's worth trying to salvage anything from that PC. I think you will end up much better off, building something as cheap as possible from scratch.
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post #4 of 9
A ram upgrade, faster hard drive (preferably if you have one laying around), and clean install of XP should work just fine. sure it won't be a great computer, but would be fine for web browsing and work in microsoft office
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Originally Posted by apav View Post

Hi guys,

Just built a computer for a friend, and they want their old computer to go to their niece. However, this computer is by today's standards a dinosaur, so I told them I would seriously have to upgrade it if they wanted to make it an everyday use computer.

This is it:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00245801&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&prodSeriesId=450204&prodTypeId=12454

It's just as you'd suspect for an old computer. Freezes for 15 minutes once you boot it up, and still runs slow after that. I was thinking about getting a bigger hard drive and memory, but the hard drive is IDE and the max supported RAM is 1GB DDR1. There really is no room for upgrade. I would have to get a new processor, motherboard, and hard drive, maybe even a new power supply depending on the wattage and a new disk drive if I can't find a Sata female to IDE male adaptor for it.

Currently, what is the cheapest newer cpu (with integrated graphics) that I can get for everyday use with Windows 7? Nothing more, it's for a kid, so we want to be as cheap as possible. I'm looking at both Intel and AMD. Do you think I would need a new power supply as well? And is there an adapter that plugs right into the back of an IDE drive, that I can plug SATA into on the other end? So far I've seen either external or PCI-E drives that do this.

Thanks!
This is from Newegg.com and a complete rebuild.
CPU : AMD A4-4000 Richland 3.2GHz $45.99
Mobo : ASRock FM2A55M-DGS (Good for stock speed) $49.99
Ram :G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 $69.99
Case : COOLER MASTER Elite 361 $49.99
HDD : Western Digital WD Blue 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s $59.99
Rom: LITE-ON DVD Burner $17.99
PSU : Rosewill Stallion Series RD400-2-SB 400W $34.99
Shipping: $4.99
Grand Total: $333.92 ( You may have taxes in NY)
You may be able to reuse the case if the front connection will match up.
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This is from Newegg.com and a complete rebuild.
CPU : AMD A4-4000 Richland 3.2GHz $45.99
Mobo : ASRock FM2A55M-DGS (Good for stock speed) $49.99
Ram :G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 $69.99
Case : COOLER MASTER Elite 361 $49.99
HDD : Western Digital WD Blue 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s $59.99
Rom: LITE-ON DVD Burner $17.99
PSU : Rosewill Stallion Series RD400-2-SB 400W $34.99
Shipping: $4.99
Grand Total: $333.92 ( You may have taxes in NY)
You may be able to reuse the case if the front connection will match up.

forgot windows
post #7 of 9
It'd likely be more productive for them to just upgrade. for 320ish(+100ish for windows) you'd get a computer that'll run great and last for years. I could even get the budget to about 260ish, but it isn't worth the compromises if you ask me.

That computer is already so out-dated it isn't even worth bothering with, so here's what I suggest.


Optical($15 with promo code EMCXLXT226) - SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151266

Case($32 with promo code EMCXLXT43) - Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023

RAM($55) - Kingston HyperX Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104360

APU($90 with promo code EMCYTZT4142) - AMD A8-5600K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113281

Motherboard+PSU Combo($90) - BIOSTAR Hi-Fi A85W FM2 AMD A85X + COOLER MASTER GX 450W 450W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS BRONZE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1432256

REFURBISHED HDD($30) - Major brand (Seagate, WD, HGST, Maxtor or Samsung) ARHD500SA3 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822826001

Total Price - $323 with shipping included. Rebates not included(if any).

Change APU+memory to the below for $260 build, but I don't suggest it.

APU($46) - AMD A4-4000 Richland 3.2GHz Socket FM2 65W Dual-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113343

RAM($36) - Team Elite 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313072

Total Price - $260 with shipping included. Rebates not included(if any).
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post #8 of 9
I like the above two builds with the Trinity A4 APU and 4gb ram not the one with the A8 and 8gb ram.If this PC is only for general use and web surfing then the $260 build is plenty.Don't bother with your old 2004 junk PC.
    
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post #9 of 9
actually, you could just as well buy a full system, such as these.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100019096%204018%20600217078&IsNodeId=1&name=A4-Series%20APU

Or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113253

I'd suggest the second choice. If you go down this route.
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