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post #11 of 18
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Sorry I should have made that clear because my room temp is mostly 22c+ I wanted my pc components to run cooler and that's why I was under the impression if they are cooler they will give out less heat. But I understand I was totally under the wrong impression (still a noob when it comes to water cooling smile.gif ) and it just means water cooling get's rid of the heat quicker then air but it's the same amount of heat coming out and because water is quicker cool water is hitting the water blocks quick making the temps go down.

What makes watercooling better is that water is very good at holding heat. That means it will "suck" the heat from the blocks more efficiently and will hold a lot of that heat while it travels to the radiators where the heat can be dissipated. The temperature of the water itself usually stays rather consistent throughout the entire loop so it's not so much about the water being cool, although naturally it has to be cooler than the chips it's cooling in order to work. Which leads to the next point...

You should be aware that watercooling doesn't do as well in hot rooms like yours, since you are always limited by ambient temps in terms of how much cooling potential you can realize. So the amount of improvement you see will likely be less than what your friends are getting. If you want to really help it out though, buy an air conditioner wink.gif
Edited by threephi - 9/8/13 at 5:31pm
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post #12 of 18
When I first built my water cooling a bit over a year ago I also thought that by cooler hardware temperatures I'd also have less heat dumped into my room, huge mistake on my part until I realized the heat the computer produces is still the same. biggrin.gif

But it is still worth it, I also have room ambients of 30-36ºC here in Spain in summer and water cooling has made it so much easier to play because with air cooling the graphic cards would get crazy hot and VERY noisy because of the fans being at full speed! Same for the CPU.

Everything is MUCH cooler on water and a lot quieter too, I only run all my fans at ~900rpm and its dead quiet, my GPU's hit 480-52ºC with room at ~34ºC and my CPU hits 68-72ºC at 4.7GHz 1.4v (Around 65-69 at 4.5).

This is of course with fans on minimum speed, and crazy high ambient temperatures, plus bumping fans to like 1000-1200 can help bring everything down 2-3ºC if you want.

GO WATER COOLING! biggrin.gif
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You should be aware that watercooling doesn't do as well in hot rooms like yours, since you are always limited by ambient temps in terms of how much cooling potential you can realize. So the amount of improvement you see will likely be less than what your friends are getting. If you want to really help it out though, buy an air conditioner wink.gif

It doesn't do as well, but still does MUCH better than air cooling, even with my room at 32-36ºC in July-August (and it's still 29-34ºC these days of September in the evening) it is sooo worth it, much quieter, and much cooler than air cooling.

I do have an air aconditioner, but not everyone can afford it, plus I can't really use it any time I want because an air conditioner consumes a lot of electricity and here in Spain we pay probably DOUBLE of what you guys pay in the US (Here in Spain I believe we're paying close to 0.20€ per KW/h, not 100% sure of exact price right now).

Just in August we had a bill of 250€ (Around $330) because I used the A/C almost all day long. tongue.gif
Edited by kcuestag - 9/8/13 at 6:00pm
post #13 of 18
Ya remember 50'c is still hotter than 30'c.
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GO WATER COOLING! biggrin.gif

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It doesn't do as well, but still does MUCH better than air cooling, even with my room at 32-36ºC in July-August (and it's still 29-34ºC these days of September in the evening) it is sooo worth it, much quieter, and much cooler than air cooling.

I do have an air aconditioner, but not everyone can afford it, plus I can't really use it any time I want because an air conditioner consumes a lot of electricity and here in Spain we pay probably DOUBLE of what you guys pay in the US (Here in Spain I believe we're paying close to 0.20€ per KW/h, not 100% sure of exact price right now).

Just in August we had a bill of 250€ (Around $330) because I used the A/C almost all day long. tongue.gif

Yeah I didn't mean to imply that it wouldn't still be better than air cooling, just that the OP will likely lose one or two degrees of performance because of the high ambient temp. Regardless, watercooling is worth it because it's a lot of fun to set up and makes your rig look awesome biggrin.gif

It gets pretty muggy here in NYC during the summer too. My bill can easily hit $300 if I don't watch it, so I know where you're coming from tongue.gif
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post #15 of 18
Put a portable air conditioner in a small closet (or build a small box (say 4'x4'x4') in the room with the air conditioner in, and exhaust the warm air from the portable AC out of your house through either a 4" hole in the wall, or through a window adapter.

By doing this, you can set the temperature of the AC (either in the box or the closet) so that it doesn't always run with your house AC unit and won't add to the heat that the house AC unit needs to deal with. Also, there won't be as much noise as just having the portable AC in the room with you, because the box can be insulated with 1-2" foam (same with the closet) that will keep the cool air in and muffle the sound.

Then you can do one of two things.

1) You can put your computers in the closet/box and run KVM extensions for your keyboard/video/mouse.
-OR-
2) Build your water cooling loop with 5-20 foot long tubes that go from your computer on your desk into the box/closet and have your radiators/fans/pump/reservoir (ie all the stuff that makes noise and gets hot) in there.

Either way, most of the noise and heat will be out of your office.


You can pick up a dedicated 10-15k BTU portable AC unit that will only add about $75-90 a year to your electric bill (depending on your rates) even if it runs 24/7, and will set you back about $400-$450.
post #16 of 18
The other neat thing about water cooling is that you can control where the heat is out-putted by the radiators.
Run that water line to a window and vent that heat directly out of the house thumb.gif

I have even seen members run the radiators into the basement, or below the floor line where the cooler air resides.
You could even stick the radiators in a large bucket of water (add some ice) to stick that heat elsewhere.

Options, options... options thumb.gif
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post #17 of 18
Kcuestag, I have the same situation in summer here in Italy.

In my PC room i have 36 °C and no way to install an A/C

I'm thinking about the Corsair water cooling solution for CPU and video card

I'm trying to find out the better case for my situation and I'm still confused about how to set up CPU and video card radiator.

RADIATOR (exhaust)
( VGA) 1x120 on the back exhaust
(CPU) 2x120 / 2x 140 on the top exhaust

INTAKE ( 36° C)
2x140 fans front case

or is it better to put the radiators far form each others one on the front, the VGA radiators on the back with the top fans exhusting ?

What kind of airflow configuration do you have?

Thx
post #18 of 18
Down clock and under volt your CPU, GPU, motherboard & get a smaller PSU. Your system will produce less heat.
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