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I'm about to order my new build and I need help with my fan selection, here are my water cooling components and computer equipment to be water cooled:

Water Cooling:
CPU Block: EK Supremacy Full Nickel
GPU Block: Hydro Copper 780 Classified x2
Radiator: Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta Quad 140mm x2 (externally mounted)
Pump: Alphacool VPP655 Variable Speed Pump w/ HF Top Edition x2
Res: Bitspower Z-Multi 150 Inline Reservoir

PC Components:
CPU: Intel 4770k
GPU: EVGA GTX 780 Classified x2

I'm looking to run 16 140mm fans in push/pull configuration on both of my radiators, the Monsta rads are 86mm thick with ~9 FPI. So I'm looking for the best possible performance with an RPM around 1000-1500 with the least amount of noise and pulling around 1 watt.

Here are the fans I'm currently looking at, anything that might beat these in the noise/performance area? Especially if its under $20 USD..

Cougar CF-V14H Vortex HDB:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835553003

Noctua NF-A14 FLX:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608034

Noiseblocker BlackSilentPro PK-2:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10214/fan-658/Noiseblocker_NB-BlackSilentPro_PK-2_140mm_x_25mm_Ultra_Quiet_Fan_-_1200_RPM_-_20_dBA.html?tl=g36c15s775&id=6fbu68mx&mv_pc=2889

Anything I've missed? Any reason you'd pick one over the other? I'm mainly interested in the Cougars because they're about $10 USD less per-fan than the other options. Would these even work on an 86mm thick radiator? Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 16
Hello,

The two best fans in this selection are the noise blockers and the cougars , So I would only look between those two, Also you might want to look at corsair SP 120 mm fans and gentle typhoon's. But I would get the cougars They are much more nicer in build quality and performance ,






-ROG
post #3 of 16
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My big worry with the cougars is that they aren't square, so there is a lot of open space between each of the fans which should in theory at least decrease the air pressure. Is that going to be an issue? I'm also iffy on them because of the fact that they aren't well reviewed being so new. I love the price tag and I'm hoping the sound and performance doesn't suffer too much.
post #4 of 16
no it should not matter those fins have such a angle on them that I am sure it will make up for them , The noise blockers make a humming sound ( loud) when you have a few on a radiator ,
from my experience , I mean me personally I do not care about noise I have over 45 fans LOL , all 2300RPM, but the cougars are a nice choice and the reviews are not good but think of how many people do not do reviews on stuff they buy and look at all the rigs on OCN using those fans , So the final choice is yours my friend!


-ROG
post #5 of 16
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lol, yeah, I wish noise wasn't an issue on this build, but as its my recording machine I have to find the best balance I can on noise vs. performance. The Cougars look like they're performers but also noise makers. I heard about that humming noise on the noise blockers which is why I had them on the bottom of my list. I haven't really considered the Corsair fans, I'll give those a look.
post #6 of 16
$20 noctua flx http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/nonfflx14.html about 1.2 watt at 12v

$7 both low and medium speed yates but no idea how they work on rads. they should perform the same as the 120mm fans
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/yalo14d1lows.html http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/yalo14d1lows1.html about 6 watt for slow and 8.4 watt for medium at 12v

$11 for swiftech helix 140 http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swhe14cofanh.html about 5.4 watt at 12v

btw, those noctua have mounting of 120mm fans. you have 140mm rads. they wont mount and an adapter to do 120 to 140 wont work. a wide range of fans means using 140mm to 120mm adapters. you dont want the corsairs. they will be loud.
your best bet is the helix fans
Edited by pc-illiterate - 9/9/13 at 6:37am
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post #7 of 16
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$20 noctua flx http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/nonfflx14.html about 1.2 watt at 12v

$7 both low and medium speed yates but no idea how they work on rads. they should perform the same as the 120mm fans
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/yalo14d1lows.html http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/yalo14d1lows1.html about 6 watt for slow and 8.4 watt for medium at 12v

$11 for swiftech helix 140 http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swhe14cofanh.html about 5.4 watt at 12v

btw, those noctua have mounting of 120mm fans. you have 140mm rads. they wont mount and an adapter to do 120 to 140 wont work. a wide range of fans means using 140mm to 120mm adapters. you dont want the corsairs. they will be loud.
your best bet is the helix fans

Well, those Noctuas also come in a box variety which can mount to a 140:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608034&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r-_-Case+Fans-_-Noctua-_-35608034

Seeing as this is a similar fan to the one you posted, would you say go with it over the Helix? Haven't even considered Swiftech yet, but I'll look into those! I'm not to comfortable with getting adapters, as that's additional cost on my already overburdened budget.
post #8 of 16
personally imma cheap skate and would choose the helix fans. they are basically a sleeve bearing gt ap-14. i would never spend more than $15 on any fan. i run $6 yates on my rads and they work well.
you WILL get 1,000,000 opinions on fans. every set-up is different and every person has a different level of hearing. it basically comes down to what review and opinion do you trust the most?
i only added my $.02 worth of opinion biggrin.gif as most others will. good luck in your selection and i hope they work well for you thumb.gif
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post #9 of 16
NoiseBlocker PL-2's are phenomenal. I've got 5 as of now, and they are stupidly quiet at 12V, but even more quiet at 7V. The PL-2's are at 1400RPM stock, and they push a fair amount of air. I have never heard a buzzing on NoiseBlocker fans.

Get the PL-2's! thumb.gif You won't regret it.

-Zepp
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post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by pc-illiterate View Post

personally imma cheap skate and would choose the helix fans. they are basically a sleeve bearing gt ap-14. i would never spend more than $15 on any fan. i run $6 yates on my rads and they work well.
you WILL get 1,000,000 opinions on fans. every set-up is different and every person has a different level of hearing. it basically comes down to what review and opinion do you trust the most?
i only added my $.02 worth of opinion biggrin.gif as most others will. good luck in your selection and i hope they work well for you thumb.gif

Well, if the yates perform well cooling wise, how are they on noise levels at whatever RPMs you're running? Believe me, I'd love to cut the hell out of my fan costs. I've got a theoretical budget (one my wife won't kill me for, but she'll still hate me for the next year or two) and a realistic one. I just don't want to have buyer's remorse a few months down the line when I have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get fan noise out of my recordings..
Quote:
Originally Posted by ledzepp3 View Post

NoiseBlocker PL-2's are phenomenal. I've got 5 as of now, and they are stupidly quiet at 12V, but even more quiet at 7V. The PL-2's are at 1400RPM stock, and they push a fair amount of air. I have never heard a buzzing on NoiseBlocker fans.

Get the PL-2's! thumb.gif You won't regret it.

-Zepp

Are you running any of them on a radiator?
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