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It wasnt showing on my MSDN website so I downloaded a RTM from a different source. It activated just fine with my W8 key. The only thing that is kind of weird is that I have a watermark saying "SecureBoot isnt configured properly" left bottom corner.
Im not sure what that is.
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It wasnt showing on my MSDN website so I downloaded a RTM from a different source. It activated just fine with my W8 key. The only thing that is kind of weird is that I have a watermark saying "SecureBoot isnt configured properly" left bottom corner.
Im not sure what that is.

After you enable Secure Boot in the BIOS, it won't have keys set and will be in "Setup" mode. If you play around with the options surrounding that, one should be about loading the default keys for the encryption. After you tell it to do that, it'll show it's in "User" mode. The message on the desktop will disappear.

You have to go back and delete those keys to get it out of "User" and back into "Setup" mode if you want to do things to the boot loader on disk. You have to do that when you do a fresh install of Windows or restore a system image backup for example.

Be careful if you use Gigabyte... the latest Gigabyte BIOS betas are broken and won't boot if you enable Secure Boot and load those default keys.
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I'm running 8 right now. I've actually grown fond of Metro, and would like to keep it.

Would moving to 8.1 still be worth it for me, for improved performance?

(This question is for those familiar, and based on knowledge experience. Please don't respond with uninformed hatred or fanboyism.)
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I'm running 8 right now. I've actually grown fond of Metro, and would like to keep it.

Would moving to 8.1 still be worth it for me, for improved performance?

(This question is for those familiar, and based on knowledge experience. Please don't respond with uninformed hatred or fanboyism.)

Windows 8.1 is literally a no-brainer for anyone who likes Windows 8.

Your start menu is synced onto any Windows 8.1 device you log into, including position of tiles/size of tiles.

If you make a "group" called "games" on the start screen on your main PC and put Steam/Origin/Counterstrike/Battlefield/any game in that group, if you sign into another PC/Laptop/Tablet and install any of those programmes, they will automatically be put into a group called "games" on the start screen of the new device and organise themselves accordingly.

E.G


This is a screenshot of my fresh 8.1 RTM install start screen. It doesn't have all my desktop apps synced (obviously), but all the metro apps are exactly the same as I left them before I formatted. That "games" group didn't exist immediately after install, but as soon as I installed Origin and SimCity, it remembered how and where I like those programmes organised on my start screen (or if I want them on the start screen at all), put them in the appropriate group and even remembered what size the tiles should be.


If you download an app from the app store on your laptop, it'll auto download it on your PC/Tablet too.

Apps update automatically without needing your input.

The universal search includes web images/videos as well as functioning like the search from W7 that shows individual files the moment you type their name.

The Xbox Music app is tonnes better.

The metro "Change PC Settings" area is much improved/organised.

The mail app is many times improved, separating general, "newsletter" and "social" emails into different groups. That way you're not sifting through tonnes of facebook notifications to find amazon deals and vice versa.

You can snap more than two apps and you can actually choose the size of the snapped apps now instead of the previously mandatory quarter screen size.

You can choose to boot directly to the desktop.

You can use your desktop background for the start menu.

You can choose to have desktop apps listed first.

You can choose to go to "all apps" screen instead of the start screen when you press/click the start button.

The "trust this pc" process when logging into a new PC is more stream lined and is part of the initial setup.

You can shutdown/log out/sleep from the "right click on start button" menu.

There are new "large" and "small" tile sizes. Small tile size is good for organising desktop apps without them looking as ugly.



And probably a bunch more stuff that I missed.
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Pretty much all good stuff there Grizzle. I've gotten used to most of the stuff on 8 and can do what I need to do just as fast if not faster than on 7, thanks to the hated Metro start screen. I'm happy about a few key features in there though, primarily the shutdown/sleep being redone and the ability to change the start menu background. The change in snap size is a welcome one as well. Really didn't have a problem with Xbox music the way it was.
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Just a word of warning for those who use a Microsoft account - set an excellent password and turn on two factor authentication. Prevents some one from using your password to sign in elsewhere, in the event your password gets compromised.
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The only issue I've noticed with 8.1 is the forced SkyDrive integration.
For people with low/limited bandwidth like me, that was literally a show-stopper because SkyDrive was constantly uploading/downloading at full speed.
Fortunately, if you use a local account (i.e. you don't sign into Windows with your Microsoft account) it disables the integration.
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Windows 8.1 is literally a no-brainer for anyone who likes Windows 8.

Your start menu is synced onto any Windows 8.1 device you log into, including position of tiles/size of tiles.

If you make a "group" called "games" on the start screen on your main PC and put Steam/Origin/Counterstrike/Battlefield/any game in that group, if you sign into another PC/Laptop/Tablet and install any of those programmes, they will automatically be put into a group called "games" on the start screen of the new device and organise themselves accordingly.

E.G


This is a screenshot of my fresh 8.1 RTM install start screen. It doesn't have all my desktop apps synced (obviously), but all the metro apps are exactly the same as I left them before I formatted. That "games" group didn't exist immediately after install, but as soon as I installed Origin and SimCity, it remembered how and where I like those programmes organised on my start screen (or if I want them on the start screen at all), put them in the appropriate group and even remembered what size the tiles should be.


If you download an app from the app store on your laptop, it'll auto download it on your PC/Tablet too.

Apps update automatically without needing your input.

The universal search includes web images/videos as well as functioning like the search from W7 that shows individual files the moment you type their name.

The Xbox Music app is tonnes better.

The metro "Change PC Settings" area is much improved/organised.

The mail app is many times improved, separating general, "newsletter" and "social" emails into different groups. That way you're not sifting through tonnes of facebook notifications to find amazon deals and vice versa.

You can snap more than two apps and you can actually choose the size of the snapped apps now instead of the previously mandatory quarter screen size.

You can choose to boot directly to the desktop.

You can use your desktop background for the start menu.

You can choose to have desktop apps listed first.

You can choose to go to "all apps" screen instead of the start screen when you press/click the start button.

The "trust this pc" process when logging into a new PC is more stream lined and is part of the initial setup.

You can shutdown/log out/sleep from the "right click on start button" menu.

There are new "large" and "small" tile sizes. Small tile size is good for organising desktop apps without them looking as ugly.



And probably a bunch more stuff that I missed.

Awesome, thank you. That's exactly what I wanted to know! My java is busted at work, but I'll rep you when I get home for the time you took to answer my question.
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