Originally Posted by Durquavian
And you are full of it. ICC is a big part and that business part you mention, ICC is the result of that. Stop pretending Intel is just smarter. Do you honestly think the story would have been the same if Intel had never commited crimes against the consumers
ICC and the way it's used is legal. Intel offers a compiler that developers are free to use if they want.
If you're talking about the OEM stuff, I don't think intel being fair would have made much of a difference. The time when AMD's offerings were faster was somewhat limited compared to the consistency of intel (excluding netburst).
And I didn't say intel is smarter. I said they have those advantages and they certainly do.
1) Technology advantage
-I don't see AMD owning fabs, presenting 14nm working silicon, doing 3d transistors, promising 10nm by 2015 etc. Technology advantage for intel is just a fact. They have the money and people that can do the research. AMD doesn't.
2) Good management
-This one is also pretty clear, intel has been pretty steady and successful as a business while AMD has had much more problems, random exec changes, they've taken bad deals for the companies they buy, they've had their management restructured because of X, Y and Z for tons of times etc. They're not consistent and there have been numerous AMD people who have admitted how BD for example was a complete mess from a managing stand point and how it lead to some serious restructuring within the company.
3) Money/workforce advantage
-Pretty self explanatory. Intel has the money for better R&D, they have the money to hire more people, they have the money to buy more smaller companies with tech they want, etc. And after they get all that they have a workforce advantage. Both intel and amd have excellent engineers and other employees. Intel just has more.
And again the relevant thing here is that intel is branching off to several market segments, providing products from sub-1W Quark chips to the 150W 12-core IB-Es. All of this while offering the mainstream and the HPC market what the majority want. Efficiency and low power consumption.
Meanwhile AMD is pretty much dropping their server and high end workstation/consumer market. They do not have very low power, and they can't get too many design wins with their APUs due to power consumption differences compared to intel.
That is what is keeping intel on top. Not some small advantage in some programs given by a compiler. Even if ICC was never used again it really wouldn't change much. Intel still has those advantages I outlined above, the advantages that actually matter in the market today. AMD would still produce products with too high power draw for the performance and they wouldn't get any more design wins because of that.