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nvm where I questioned " actually, is that from AMD or some other review site?" No reason to get defensive.
Performance is out of the question? Let's just leave the most important part out of the picture?! A little narrow minded to prove a point I see.

A 3960X has a stock clock of 3.3 GHz. So to go to 4.89ghz we're looking at a 1.5ghz increase, or a 45% increase!

So an apples to apples comparison for OC to OC power usage would be against a 6.83ghz FX 9590.

You still didn't get the point of my post above. The point of the power consumption chart you posted is to debunk Durquavian's power consumption chart.
But unfortunately you failed miserably at that. Since you proofed the correctness of it unintentionally .
Oh and BTW, I am not a fan of FX 9590 especially at its price point and i7 3970X is a better alternative IMO at its price.
Edited by HeadlessKnight - 9/13/13 at 6:27am
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And as most knowledgeable users will tell you, benches do not indicate real world performance.

Benchmark =/= synthetic bench. The offer included all real life software that can somehow be benched.
 
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But the statement that was referenced was in fact power consumption of AMD was far higher than Intel and was insinuated across the board. I posted the chart to show it isn't always the case. I know Intel has lower power consumption as well they should with 22nm.
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You still didn't get the point of my post above. The point of the power consumption chart you posted is to debunk Durquavian's power consumption chart.
But unfortunately you failed miserably at that. Since you proofed the correctness of it unintentionally .
Oh and BTW, I am not a fan of FX 9590 especially at its price point.

You guys are missing the point. Here's an example.

FX 9590 = Ford F150
i7-3960X = Prius.

Prius owners: "the Prius has vastly better gas efficiency compared to the F150"
F150 onwers: "No it doesn't, if you are driving the Prius in low gear on a highway forcing it into the 6,500RPM space it only gets like 10mpg, so it's actually way worse!! DERP"

OR

Prius owners: "the Prius has vastly better gas efficiency compared to the F150"
F150 owners: "No it doesn't, when a Prius is going 90mph uphill it only gets 20mph. That's twice as bad as the 40mpg we get while cruising downhill! See I told you! DERP"


Now here's what I'm saying.
Prius owners: "the Prius has vastly better gas efficiency compared to the F150 while both cruising at 60mpg and all variables are the same"
F150 owners: "...."
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Intel may have taken a legal dump on AMD, but Alatar's other points still stand, TECHNOLOGY. Where is AMD in all of these breakthroughs. Oh yeah that's right "First 5ghz processor, just a dime away from intel's enthusiast lineup!"

AMD has had its fair share of breakthroughs.

1. First to 1 Ghz . Thunderbird.
2. First to 64 bit x86.
3. First to integrate memory controller in CPU.
4 . First to use point to point interconnect for server systems - Hypertransport.

AMD's woes started from overpaying for ATI. but after a long struggle today AMD has come out of the difficult period. In fact its ATI's IP and the conept of Fusion which has given them a new lease of life with the gaming consoles sweep this gen. AMD's big core development is making significant improvements and AMD should match Intel soon.

http://www.rage3d.com/articles/hardware/amd_worldcast/

"AMD are on track to catch up on high performance cores"

- Jim Keller, Corporate Vice President and Chief Architect of AMD's Microprocessor Cores

Jim Keller was the architect of Athlon 64 and Apple A4 / A5 chips and his return to AMD is a big boost to AMD's design efforts. Raja Koduri also returned to AMD to lead their GPU team .

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6129/apple-a4a5-designer-k8-lead-architect-jim-keller-returns-to-amd
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6907/the-king-is-back-raja-koduri-leaves-apple-returns-to-amd
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6202/amd-hires-exintel-labs-architect-john-gustafson-as-chief-graphics-product-architecture

AMD with HSA has also laid down the foundation for their long term compute strategy. AMD is capable of competing with the best. They have proven it in the past. They will do so in future. Hawaii will be the first step in that direction. Excavator on 20nm in early 2015 seems to be the timeframe when AMD will have their next truly big CPU product.
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Let's take a moment and contemplate both Intel and AMD are a duopoly. They hold x86 and x86-64 Intellectual Property by the testicular spheroids. So no point taking it personally for either.
Edited by fateswarm - 9/13/13 at 3:03pm
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