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Apparently ca have released a beta patch with which looks like quite a few improvements, they do state its only a beta and the final patch will be released next week sometime. Has anybody tried this patch? Does it work? I I will check myself tomoz afternoon but wanna actually know if its worth downloading. Cheers

I have used this beta patch, and it offers minor improvements. But the real issue is that there are so many broken elements of this game (magical army transport ships is the worst) that it will likely take CA a long time to fix everything. My guess is that they will iron out glitches and maybe performance issues first and then move to fix unpopular gameplay issues after that.

The random flags that appear in non city battles are totally out of place and annoying. I recently had a battle in which the AI was able to wait for all of its reinforcements because of this random flag that I had to protect. I couldn't divide and conquer like I would have.

The naval battles are a joke, and army transport vessels are much more powerful than they ought to be. I lost a battle with an army transport although I had more ships and trained marines because their ships are too powerful, and boarding them is suicide. This has to be balanced some how, it makes the game suck. The AI will leave their cities unguarded and leave their armies out at sea so they can just appear out of nowhere. Also sinking every ship of an army transport doesn't kill the entire army in many instances and they retreat only to come back and annoy you several turns later....

So the game is playable, but it has a long way to go to be worth the investment or time and money IMO.
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You can get it for $30 here

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hookups/discussions/28/846963710919961627/

I think it's playable. Sure it's got a lot of issues, but I'm enjoying it. I get low performance (low 20's for the campaign map usually) but none of the major battle//campaign AI bugs. Wait for a bit maybe, or take the gamble if you're confident you can recoup your money, but for $60 I would pass (and I preordered for $34).

I get an error when trying to access this.

I am guessing it is no longer available?

Works fine for me, when logged into Steam Community that is. Maybe you have to join the group?

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hookups
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I have used this beta patch, and it offers minor improvements. But the real issue is that there are so many broken elements of this game (magical army transport ships is the worst) that it will likely take CA a long time to fix everything. My guess is that they will iron out glitches and maybe performance issues first and then move to fix unpopular gameplay issues after that.

The random flags that appear in non city battles are totally out of place and annoying. I recently had a battle in which the AI was able to wait for all of its reinforcements because of this random flag that I had to protect. I couldn't divide and conquer like I would have.

The naval battles are a joke, and army transport vessels are much more powerful than they ought to be. I lost a battle with an army transport although I had more ships and trained marines because their ships are too powerful, and boarding them is suicide. This has to be balanced some how, it makes the game suck. The AI will leave their cities unguarded and leave their armies out at sea so they can just appear out of nowhere. Also sinking every ship of an army transport doesn't kill the entire army in many instances and they retreat only to come back and annoy you several turns later....

So the game is playable, but it has a long way to go to be worth the investment or time and money IMO.

Ive installed the patch and will check it out later. Yeh I hate going into a navel battle, ive had half my army wiped out trying to board there ships! Although I really enjoy playing the game hope ca sort this out asap especially when your in a battle and your army just stands there taking freaking arrows to the face instead of chasing and hacking the bastards too death
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Ive installed the patch and will check it out later. Yeh I hate going into a navel battle, ive had half my army wiped out trying to board there ships! Although I really enjoy playing the game hope ca sort this out asap especially when your in a battle and your army just stands there taking freaking arrows to the face instead of chasing and hacking the bastards too death

Yeah, it is a shame that we are forced to play an unfinished product, but the worst part IMO are some of the "new features". This is a double edged sword because we don't want a game that is simply a previous TW title with Rome as the backdrop, but we also have come to expect and love some of the core features that make the series unique. I read somewhere that the army transports were ripped off of Civilization, but I don't know that as a fact. It just appears that so many features were dumbed down and streamlined in an attempt to appeal to a wider audience. This is not just happening with this game, it is becoming common with all publishers (games, movies, etc) wanting the products they push to have a wider buying audience. The extra budget was surely justified by making changes that would make the game appeal to a wider audience. I would prefer a lower budget game that stuck to what works, keeps its core audience happy, but ultimately sells less. Without the core audience this franchise is dead in the water.

It seems that this is becoming a trend with many of the game franchises we have grown up loving. It would be irresponsible and unethical for game developers to simply rebrand a game by making simple changes and then charging the going rate to buyers. But they also alienate their core audience by trying to make the game more approachable. I can admit that some of the micro managing of previous titles was a bit over the top and redundant, but consolidation of these features should be done as an option (or difficulty level maybe).

I don't know, maybe the older I get the more bitter and cynical I become, but it just seems like everything is crap these days. Very few games are challenging, and few movies are worth seeing in theaters. I find myself investing very little energy in anticipation of new titles for this very reason. I will still play the game, but I can't say that I am not disappointed. I also can't say I am surprised that I am disappointed either. I just hope to some god that they don't ruin the upcoming Dark Souls 2 with this same philosophy. I love that game because it is not approachable and it is not easy....
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Yeah, it is a shame that we are forced to play an unfinished product, but the worst part IMO are some of the "new features". This is a double edged sword because we don't want a game that is simply a previous TW title with Rome as the backdrop, but we also have come to expect and love some of the core features that make the series unique. I read somewhere that the army transports were ripped off of Civilization, but I don't know that as a fact. It just appears that so many features were dumbed down and streamlined in an attempt to appeal to a wider audience. This is not just happening with this game, it is becoming common with all publishers (games, movies, etc) wanting the products they push to have a wider buying audience. The extra budget was surely justified by making changes that would make the game appeal to a wider audience. I would prefer a lower budget game that stuck to what works, keeps its core audience happy, but ultimately sells less. Without the core audience this franchise is dead in the water.

It seems that this is becoming a trend with many of the game franchises we have grown up loving. It would be irresponsible and unethical for game developers to simply rebrand a game by making simple changes and then charging the going rate to buyers. But they also alienate their core audience by trying to make the game more approachable. I can admit that some of the micro managing of previous titles was a bit over the top and redundant, but consolidation of these features should be done as an option (or difficulty level maybe).

I don't know, maybe the older I get the more bitter and cynical I become, but it just seems like everything is crap these days. Very few games are challenging, and few movies are worth seeing in theaters. I find myself investing very little energy in anticipation of new titles for this very reason. I will still play the game, but I can't say that I am not disappointed. I also can't say I am surprised that I am disappointed either. I just hope to some god that they don't ruin the upcoming Dark Souls 2 with this same philosophy. I love that game because it is not approachable and it is not easy....

Yeh I totally agree! Most big titles are mostly disappointing, so like yourself I try not to get all hyper like I used too and big titles. Its like simcity I couldn't wait for that to be released but what a load of crap that turned out to be and like you said its the same with movies, I mean honestly what new film in the last five years would be remembered in years to come? Horror films are a joke and so preditable its shocking. I just hope watchdogs turns out to be a successful hit otherwise im talking up golf
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is this game an RTS? the videos i watch are not of 1v1 or anything. cant really find a good one
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Yeh I totally agree! Most big titles are mostly disappointing, so like yourself I try not to get all hyper like I used too and big titles. Its like simcity I couldn't wait for that to be released but what a load of crap that turned out to be and like you said its the same with movies, I mean honestly what new film in the last five years would be remembered in years to come? Horror films are a joke and so preditable its shocking. I just hope watchdogs turns out to be a successful hit otherwise im talking up golf

There was an episode of South Park in which the main character Stan goes through the same thing. He becomes a cynical dick, and begins to see everything as crap (music, movies, games). I don't see everything as crap, but some of my favorite franchises growing up (resident evil, metal gear, gran turismo, etc) have turned away from what made them great and unique. Every once in a while there is a decent refresh, like Deus EX, Tomb Raider, Fallout 3 and NV, which come in and exceed expectations. But they are becoming few and far between.

So despite the fact that Rome 2 is full of bugs and glitches, it also suffers from trying to go mainstream, and that can't be fixed with patches. I wouldn't be surprised if CA wants to port this to both consoles in the future, it falls in line with some of the simplified features. I don't pre order any games anymore and for this reason. We can't even trust some of the major game review sites to give unbiased reviews, because I bought Rome 2 (on impulse) because I read a few positive reviews that only mentioned minor bugs. I guess I will have to just wait a few months after a game is released to get the real scoop or risk wasting $60 a pop...
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