Originally Posted by 3930K
Maybe, I dunno. Can you play .flacs on iOS devices now though?
No, but ALAC is there. ALAC and FLAC are pretty much created equal and the only thing to possibly surpass that are WAV and AIFF files (Apple bred, in fact). ALAC, IMO offers superior tagging ability, though.
Originally Posted by Domino
Android headset manufacturers have already mastered, if anything, done better then apple. Giving the support of a decent grade opamp on the HTC One is one example. The iPhone5 won't be able to properly drive my ER-4S.
Samsung, since the S3 and S1, has already given equal sound quality. Frankly, when FLAC is not supported on the iPhone, there is no point in making an argument in stating 'superior' sound quality when it doesn't have the capabilities of even performing so. Apple doesn't cater to professionals, they cater to the disorientated mass. Enjoy ALC through a USB out to an AMP while my HTC One can surpass it on the spot.
Originally Posted by perfectblade
why are you using er-4s on a mobile device. there is a reason they make er-4p, it is easier to drive. er-4s is made *specifically* to be used with stereo amps. also there is a difference between quality and power. iphone might have less power, but is certainly higher quality with less distortion.
apple lossless vs flac, seriously? first of all, why are you using lossless files on a portable device? double blind tests shown that people cannot even discern the difference between 320kbps and lossless, and on a mobile device? you are lessening your battery life for nothing
Perfectblade kinda summed up my thoughts, but I'll add:
-ALAC and FLAC are lossless formats. They are interchangeable and any difference you think you hear is placebo.
-AAC has actually been said to sound better, while being more efficient than WMA, and MP3. The best universal audio codec, as some would claim.
-You are in fact using a version of the Ety's that are meant to be amped when playing through a device, so I'm confused as to what your point is here.
I want to address the claim that 'Android headset manufacturers have already mastered...'. The HTC One is one example of about 50-100 different flagship devices that have come into existence over the past couple of years. Also, for the US variants of the S3, we did not get the superior DAC (Wolfson chip) that the European market did. We got the standard 'onboard DAC', which in fact, actually sounds quite good. The average user wouldn't notice the difference, but those who care, probably will. Our S1 did have the Wolfson as well, but with the exception of the Note line, I believe, we haven't had a Wolfson graced Galaxy device since then (unless the S4 does). I say that to say this: ALL manufacturers are not on the same page when it comes to Android. Android does not force a hardware 'minimum' per say, where things such as audio, CPU, GPU, or screen quality HAVE to be of a certain standard (this is an example). I'll list a few devices really quick that were 'flagship' or 'top-tier' devices, but did not sound too great, or merely, just OK:
-LG Nexus 4
-Samsung Galaxy Nexus
-Razr M, Maxx, HD, etc.
You actually start to notice a trend, there, but devices I have found to sound good are the S3, HTC One X (haven't tried the One, yet), Nexus 10. So point being; Android devices have the capability of being audio monsters, and FLAC is an added benefit, that's for sure. But manufacturers for the most part put audio in their afterthoughts. Obviously the HTC One didn't, as I know it is specifically marketed that way.
Now what I'm getting at is that Apple makes very few phones, and with that comes the benefit of being able to enforce their own hardware minimum. The first couple of iPhones used Wolfson DACs, and sounded great. After Wolfson, they went with Cirrus DACs. A lot of people got mad, claimed it was inferior, and raised hell. Needless to say, the 'myth' of the Cirrus DAC being inferior was debunked. It was actually measured to be truer than the Wolfson DAC previously used, but people still took sides as the Wolfrson is said to have a 'warmer' and more natural tone/sound.
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but Beats is software only. The HTC One X sounded fantastic sans Beats software. I think you're upset, but at least try to be logical.Edited by pez - 9/16/13 at 6:02am