Originally Posted by SupahSpankeh
So, most amusing.
Is there any chance AMD will compete with Intel for price:performance in the £200+ range in the near future?
That really depends if AMD is abandoning FX series chips for APUs only or not. The desktop roadmap is supposed to come out about late October or November about.
An 8 core Steamroller at FX 8350 clocks would be very competitive against a 4770k. Even if you are conservative and place SR FX at 15% faster than Piledriver, that basically would put an 8 core SR FX between 4770k and 3930k in multi-thread. Of course it would still depend on the software benchmarked, but I'd say FX SR at 4ghz base would more often than not beat 4770k by a decent margin. I don't think it's enough to compete in single thread, even with a IPC gain, so I'd imagine that it'd fit somewhere between 4670k in pricing and 4770k in pricing to make up for the weakness in one area and the strength in another.
It really depends on if AMD releases desktop steamroller and if Steamroller lives up to the slides and analysis it's received.
I remain hopeful that AMD will continue FX SR plans in 2014, because around 30% of their sales are still FX CPUs, and to stop selling FX chips mean they're going to lose everyone who would have bought an FX 6300 or greater to Intel as AMD wouldn't have anything to compete against its old products in multi-thread.
I've pointed it out before, but FX series on Amazon (you can sort by most popular) has FX 8350 doing very well and FX 9590 is only a little bit behind Intel EE. FX 8350 is doing better than all the APUs and the 3m/6c FXs, contrary to what people would think.
Seronx seems to think we might see a 6m/12c Piledriver next due to the HDL libraries. I do think a 6m/12c FX would compete well with 3930k in multi-thread, so I would see that sort of chip doing just fine at a $400 price range or so, as it would trade blows with 3930k in multi-thread and lose when all cores couldn't be loaded.
Either way a lot of people seem to think AMD is going to go APU only, and I refuse to believe AMD would throw away market that they already have. Specially when AMD has come out and said that they were going to use their profitable CPU and GPU divisions to help fund HSA/APU/etc.
I also think a lot of folks would lean toward an AMD chip that traded blows with 4770k, specially regarding how much more flexible AMD's platform is compared to Intel's in regards to overclocking. FX is a lot more fun to overclock than the new Intels as the FX are bus and multiplier unlocked, and changing things like HT Link, CPUNB, and memory actually makes a difference in performance, which can sometimes be significant.
A solid 8 core SR FX would make a very solid CPU for playing next gen ports and it'd give FX a lot of opportunity to do well against Intel.