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[...] Still no word on release date? Price?

Nothing officially announced by Asus yet, but there's this ...

overclockers.co.uk are taking pre-orders for £325 ex VAT
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-587-AS&groupid=701&catid=5

I've no experience with overclockers.uk, so your guess is as good as mine what to glean from that.

And there's this ...
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[re: release date] October 29th is the official word from a member of their team on the RoG forums.

Haven't confirmed a price point yet, but said it won't be over $599
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Don't TITANs hit 1150-ish on air, 1200-1300 on water with the 1.3V hack? I sincerely doubt that an average 780 will OC past that on air or water...

Average titan oc on air is 1066 on hwbot. Average oc for 780 on water is 1244. You're not going to get much of an oc on air. With water, you'll hit the voltage wall. You can hard mod but probably need ln2 to get anything out of it.

In other words, the average is a 27% oc on the titan on air.
For the 780, the average is a 44% oc on water.
Most say titan is 10% faster. You can do the math, for the same price I can have a system that performs better and doesn't annoy me with a loud fan.

Water > Air
Edited by Arm3nian - 10/2/13 at 1:32pm
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Average titan oc on air is 1066 on hwbot. Average oc for 780 on water is 1244. You're not going to get much of an oc on air. With water, you'll hit the voltage wall. You can hard mod but probably need ln2 to get anything out of it.
I have to add, 780 is also ~13% slower then titan clock for clock... takes 150-200mhz+ to beat out a titan clock. Get a custom PCB 780, and you will beat a titan all day. Also, Titans under water + voltage hack FLYYYYY, they do not require LN2 for insanely high clocks. If you don't believe me, check out Alatar's 500W titan.

Coming from some one who owns 3 titans. They have a HUGE quality range, from "should of never of been sold" to "good lord, this thing is made of solid pwn"

I know people poopoo the asic thing, but it has some merit with titans. my 64% card is quite the dud, my 89% card is of the gods.

oh one last thing, anyone with Vanilla RIVE... Can you please confirm/deny that the lowest PWM signal from the cpu header is 50%?
Edited by skupples - 10/2/13 at 1:33pm
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I have to add, 780 is also ~13% slower then titan clock for clock... takes 150-200mhz+ to beat out a titan clock. Get a custom PCB 780, and you will beat a titan all day. Also, Titans under water + voltage hack FLYYYYY, they do not require LN2 for insanely high clocks. If you don't believe me, check out Alatar's 500W titan.

Coming from some one who owns 3 titans. They have a HUGE quality range, from "should of never of been sold" to "good lord, this thing is made of solid pwn"

I know people poopoo the asic thing, but it has some merit with titans. my 64% card is quite the dud, my 89% card is of the gods.

oh one last thing, anyone with Vanilla RIVE... Can you please confirm/deny that the lowest PWM signal from the cpu header is 50%?

229 is what most can get from a titan on air, 381mhz for 780 on water. So that falls in the 150-200mhz to beat it, plus quieter system. Choice is obvious.

Edit: Water titan obviously kills 780, but thats not the point lol. Good luck voltage modding on air when your gpu is suffering at 80c.

When I had quad-sli 690s on air, I didn't get much of an oc out of them, temps were too high, it throttled if I oc'd. Put them under water, got +150 on the clock and +500 on the mem on both cores, and bios flashed to 150% power target.

Once you go water, you don't go back.
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And there's this ...

Actually he said it would be about price of previous board, definitely it would be under 599 $. He also spoke about 20K capacitors and other stuff.
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overclockers.uk ETA "overdue" lol
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Average titan oc on air is 1066 on hwbot. Average oc for 780 on water is 1244. You're not going to get much of an oc on air. With water, you'll hit the voltage wall. You can hard mod but probably need ln2 to get anything out of it.

In other words, the average is a 27% oc on the titan on air.
For the 780, the average is a 44% oc on water.
Most say titan is 10% faster. You can do the math, for the same price I can have a system that performs better and doesn't annoy me with a loud fan.

Water > Air

I love how you said like if you're not willing to put it under water then you won't get near the same clocks. Then threw LN2 in the mix like some1 conservative that doesn't wanna build a custom loop would feel LN2 is more in their "Comfort Zone" LMAO

Not that i disagree with a single thing you said. If you want the best clocks, you NEEEEED the best cooling. I just laughed when i read that =D
    
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I love how you said like if you're not willing to put it under water then you won't get near the same clocks. Then threw LN2 in the mix like some1 conservative that doesn't wanna build a custom loop would feel LN2 is more in their "Comfort Zone" LMAO

Not that i disagree with a single thing you said. If you want the best clocks, you NEEEEED the best cooling. I just laughed when i read that =D

Well a card under water is going to get higher clocks than one on air. What I meant by the LN2 is that you need it for extreme clocks that can be achieved with the mods, like 1600mhz lol.
You don't need any extra cooling for overclocking, but obviously the better cooling the higher the overclock.
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overclockers.uk ETA "overdue" lol
My nerves are overdue too. It's still month wait, and then wait until it gets into my country. Even the previous board is in status: we are collecting preorders.

I actually looked into close country, and found they have it in storage already(X79-DELUXE, not RIVE), and they have 5 years warranty. I suddenly have urge to do some computer security related job for a Russian, or Chinese embassy. Honestly country where I live suck balls.
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LN2 is the drag racer fuel of the computer world, i doubt many people use LN2 on gaming rigs.

In my experience, Titans don't respond so well to watercooling unless you change the bios, and crack the voltage. Though, I was pumping a metric ton of air into my case when they were on air.
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