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RIVE can reach high clocks but you need LN2. RIVE BE might allow high clocks on air/water, which currently aren't very common. And RIVE BE can have memory at 4200mhz+

*talking about ivy-e
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post #702 of 3689
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Originally Posted by Arm3nian View Post

RIVE can reach high clocks but you need LN2. RIVE BE might allow high clocks on air/water, which currently aren't very common. And RIVE BE can have memory at 4200mhz+

*talking about ivy-e


It's a matter of CPU's, not the board. I have a build running 4.8 on a 4930K on water just fine with 1.4V.
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post #703 of 3689
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It's a matter of CPU's, not the board. I have a build running 4.8 on a 4930K on water just fine with 1.4V.

Boards do matter. Why is RIVE the best overclocker and not something else. Bios also matters with stability.

And that just means you have a good CPU. Most can't get past 4.6 without instant bsod after a certain voltage. You're not at that certain voltage because your processor allows you to get past 4.6 without a high voltage. If you're at 4.8 at 1.4 then you have lots of room for more volts, but I doubt you are going to have any luck getting past 4.8 at a reasonable voltage.

In conclusion there has to be another underlying factor beside silicon lottery, if you feed more volts you should be able to get to higher clock, not exactly the case currently.
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Boards do matter. Why is RIVE the best overclocker and not something else. Bios also matters with stability.

And that just means you have a good CPU. Most can't get past 4.6 without instant bsod after a certain voltage. You're not at that certain voltage because your processor allows you to get past 4.6 without a high voltage. If you're at 4.8 at 1.4 then you have lots of room for more volts, but I doubt you are going to have any luck getting past 4.8 at a reasonable voltage.

In conclusion there has to be another underlying factor beside silicon lottery, if you feed more volts you should be able to get to higher clock, not exactly the case currently.

If you ask EVGA is it's all about that bios... Dark either came out in limited quantities, or is doing very well. It's sold out @ MSRP all over the place (people now charging 450 and up)
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If you ask EVGA is it's all about that bios... Dark either came out in limited quantities, or is doing very well. It's sold out @ MSRP all over the place (people now charging 450 and up)

If people claim the board and bios have nothing to do with overclocking potential, then we might as well close this thread because there is no point to pay extra for a board that performs the same. Are people going to pay $200 for a $20 audio chip and wifi? Probably not.

If RIVE BE comes out and features a new bios, and has the same oc potential as current products, then I take back what I said. But for now, high overclocks coming from RIVE BE are evidence.
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It's a matter of CPU's, not the board. I have a build running 4.8 on a 4930K on water just fine with 1.4V.

I ran my 3570k at 4.7 @1.35v, it died after a month, extremely suddenly. Ran fine, no BSOD, 70c max temp with linpick then kaput. The replacement sucks, 4.4 @ 1.4v, I just run stock now. I hope you have better luck than I did.
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post #707 of 3689
It's a combination of all these things. Bios, Board, CPU...

Iv'e had my 3570k @ 4.7 plus since day one. My 2500k how ever, is slowly but surely dying, 100hz a month.
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I ran my 3570k at 4.7 @1.35v, it died after a month, extremely suddenly. Ran fine, no BSOD, 70c max temp with linpick then kaput. The replacement sucks, 4.4 @ 1.4v, I just run stock now. I hope you have better luck than I did.

I'm not running the 4.8 settings daily, it's only for bench, pushing towards 5.0 shortly wink.gif 4.6 @ 1.29V, I'm happy with that.

It's a combination of things yes, however if you're hitting at wall at 4.4 say 1.4V you're not going to do any better on the BE, that's a given. I'm sure I can push for more on the black edition, but it's not necessary.

BIOS will mature on RIVE soon, like how the X79-Deluxe BIOS helped lower voltage just very slightly vs the initial BIOS. First chip within same batch on RIVE did 4.3 @ 1.23V, but it hit a wall at 4.4 w/ 1.375V This chip within that same batch is doing 4.6 @ 1.29V and needs 1.375V to push 4.8. Same board, same cooling, same RAM, only different chip.

Do you blame board or the chip? I lean towards the Chip.

Only other reason to get the black edition is the sound circuitry and the new memory signal enhancements.
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I ran my 3570k at 4.7 @1.35v, it died after a month, extremely suddenly. Ran fine, no BSOD, 70c max temp with linpick then kaput. The replacement sucks, 4.4 @ 1.4v, I just run stock now. I hope you have better luck than I did.

What's that got to do with the price of fish?

I had a 3820 running at 5050mhz and 1.49v 24/7 for 6 months and it was fine and have a 4770K running 4600mhz at 1.46v 24/7 and have since Haswel dropped, it's fine and numerous other CPUs like a 2700K and 3930Ks running +5000mhz with +1.45v. Some guys can run high voltage for ages with no dramas and some no time at all and have a lot of issues but most often voltage isn't the cause of failure, either bad luck or temps.

I seriously doubt you running your CPU at 1.35v was you fault at all, that voltage isn't very high, so I wouldn't worry about that kind of stuff as long as your temps are in check. Not 100deg under load in prime95 with a H100i but real watercooling and sub 60deg under load.

I'm not so sure about the BE edition. I hope it yields some improvements but I'm skeptical if the board will make enough of a difference.
    
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