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@Seronx

So you're saying that the dGPU's will have the newer features on that graph? I suppose since Kaveri was pushed back, they decided to add it all to Kaveri too?

Then what exactly will Excavator bring? I guess the "Quality of Service" and apparently big IPC gains?
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So you're saying that the dGPU's will have the newer features on that graph?
New features, refined features from Sea Islands, and better support of OpenCL 2.0, etc.
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I suppose since Kaveri was pushed back, they decided to add it all to Kaveri too?
Yes.
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Then what exactly will Excavator bring? I guess the "Quality of Service" and apparently big IPC gains?
Steamroller -> Excavator, imho will be an Agena B3 to Deneb C3 improvement.
Bulldozer -> Steamroller, imho will be 00h(dual-core) to 10h(quad-core), while retaining the same core count between the two.

B/P -> S => AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ to AMD Phenom X4 9950 : while requiring no optimization because the core count didn't increase in reality.(Trinity/Richland -> Kaveri)
S -> E => AMD Phenom X4 9950 to AMD Phenom II X4 980.

Kaveri -> Carrizo:
Phenom 9950 140W -> Phenom 9950 125W
AMD Phenom II X4 965 140W -> AMD Phenom II X4 965 125W
etc

All in relation to Kaveri not the server CPU after Warsaw.
Edited by Seronx - 9/12/13 at 7:31pm
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So basically, Excavator is where the bigger gains in IPC and overall throughput will come through. Kaveri/SR is mostly about the HSA rather than boosting up the IPC a lot. That really does make sense. The module-load penalty being gone will also be a welcome bonus, which is mainly why I've decided to skip over BD/PD for now.
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So basically, Excavator is where the bigger gains in IPC and overall throughput will come through. Kaveri/SR is mostly about the HSA rather than boosting up the IPC a lot. That really does make sense. The module-load penalty being gone will also be a welcome bonus, which is mainly why I've decided to skip over BD/PD for now.
Steamroller is where all the big gains in IPC are at. Excavator is riding on the bonuses of FinFETs and a smaller node.

Steamroller - IPC gain -> Excavator - Clock gain.

Tock -> Clock -> Tock -> Clock -> Tock -> Clock

Opinions^, Carrizo could for all I know be Excavator on 28nm, as well.
Edited by Seronx - 9/12/13 at 7:50pm
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The per-thread decoder is there for greater multi-threaded performance, it alone does not have of an effect on single threaded performance. Steamroller probably realizes its biggest single thread gains from better branch predictor, large i-cache, micro-op cache, higher bandwidth and lower latency L1 and L2 data caches.

I agree that the CPU in carizzo is probably a more refined version of steamroller with higher clock rate in the same TDP. Then again, it could be a much more aggressive design than that.
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So basically, Excavator is where the bigger gains in IPC and overall throughput will come through. Kaveri/SR is mostly about the HSA rather than boosting up the IPC a lot. That really does make sense. The module-load penalty being gone will also be a welcome bonus, which is mainly why I've decided to skip over BD/PD for now.
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Yeah I know that the independent decoder will be for multi-threaded mainly. The thing that annoys me with current BD/PD is the multi-threaded scaling which suffers as a result of the shared decoder.
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