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post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by DannyT View Post

Op, how does this look?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.97 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba Q Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GT 640 2GB Video Card ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($70.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $774.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-14 07:57 EDT-0400)

He said he already has a cooler, and that she wants a small form factor. Cheers!
post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by Gurkburk View Post

Sigh. I find it funny that on an overclocking website you're sitting here saying that they are overrated. I'd destroy things if i had a bootup time on 1minute+ when overclocking on my gear..

You have never had an SSD in your PC, i can see it in your response.

SSDs aren't just for the bootup time, which seems to be your only argument. It's like you didn't even read what i wrote in my post before. Scanning with CCleaner, malware software, antivirus software, everything takes no time at all.

I've never heard anyone before say that an SSD is overrated, haha. This is the first time.. Well, except for the ones that never even tried using one as their OS drive.

You can get a SSD for really cheap and still get these benefits.
Yep, haven't used one.
I'm not saying you're wrong, i'm simply saying that an average person would do quite fine without an SSD.

Sorry grammar nazi.

Cheers!
post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by iNfiniGUN View Post


Yep, haven't used one.
I'm not saying you're wrong, i'm simply saying that an average person would do quite fine without an SSD.

Sorry grammar nazi.

Cheers!


How he is a Grammar nazi? He said nothing about your grammar.

 

Anyway, we aren't dealing with "average" people here on OCN. The majority of us are geeks, enthusiasts, gamers, overclockers, all of the above, professional gamers, professional overclockers, and even both (and even all of the above). If we do have any "average" people, then there aren't very many.


Edited by TwoCables - 9/14/13 at 8:24pm
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post #24 of 27
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How he is a Grammar nazi? He said nothing about your grammar.

Anyway, we aren't dealing with "average" people here on OCN. The majority of us are geeks, enthusiasts, gamers, overclockers, all of the above, professional gamers, professional overclockers, and even both (and even all of the above). If we do have any "average" people, then there aren't very many.

No, i was the grammar nazi...although i forgot the ( . ) between ( Sorry ) and ( Grammar Nazi ). >.>

I corrected his grammar in my post. Sorry. redface.gif

Well anyway, Reading your post made me realize i actually made a mistake.

Well, i was wrong and i admit it. but would you please tell me how they scale? as i've never used one. ( all i've seen are videos )
post #25 of 27
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Originally Posted by iNfiniGUN View Post


No, i was the grammar nazi...although i forgot the ( . ) between ( Sorry ) and ( Grammar Nazi ). >.>

I corrected his grammar in my post. Sorry. redface.gif

Well anyway, Reading your post made me realize i actually made a mistake.

Well, i was wrong and i admit it. but would you please tell me how they scale? as i've never used one. ( all i've seen are videos )

 

I don't know how to answer this other than by sharing my experience:

 

I've always had a 2-drive system where one is for C: and one is for D:. This makes it easy for me to format and start over. At some time after 2008, I gradually upgraded from two 7200 RPM hard drives to two 150GB VelociRaptors. Then some time after that, I replaced one of the VelociRaptors with a good solid state drive for my C: drive (good for that time). I noticed a difference right away.

 

Eventually, I soon decided to see what it would be like if I disconnected the VelociRaptor that was remaining (which was my D: drive) in order to simulate what it would be like if I replaced that VelociRaptor with a solid state drive. So, I shut down, disconnected it, and turned it back on. Right away, I noticed that Windows loaded even faster. I even noticed that my system felt even snappier than before just by disconnecting that VelociRaptor.

 

Confused, I decided to look into getting another solid state drive so that I would then be able to keep my 2-drive setup without having to be bogged down by a hard drive - even a fast VelociRaptor. Many people back then had just one storage drive and it was a solid state drive, so I was determined to replace that VelociRaptor so that I could enjoy that superior performance of not having any hard drives connected without sacrificing my 2-drive setup.

 

So, I eventually replaced that VelociRaptor with a solid state drive and it's been bliss ever since because I got that boost in speed that I experienced back when I simply disconnected the VelociRaptor. Windows starts and restarts significantly faster, programs open just as fast as they do when they open from memory, and of course it's faster just in general whenever drive reads or writes are involved. I basically live at my computer, so it's well worth it. However, this isn't to say that I think everyone would feel that it's worth it. It's just something that you have to think about and decide for yourself. Although, back in 2011 I upgraded from an E8400 @ 4.0 GHz in an EP45-UDP3 with nice DDR2 1200 G.SKILL Pi memory and a GTX 470 to what I have now and it was a massive upgrade. Yet, before I ever began thinking about upgrading, I was telling people here on OCN left and right that I have no need to upgrade, that my current system is overkill for me, and that upgrading would be a huge waste of my money. I mean seriously, that system was plenty fast for what I do, yet I still feel that my money was very well spent on the Sand Bridge upgrade! I know, this is contradicting to "make up your own mind", but I feel it's worth mentioning because sometimes it's like food: you won't know until you try it.

 

I wish I could give a the technical kind of answer that you're asking for here because I know how helpful it would be in helping you make an informed decision one way or the other, but I can't. For me, I figured that I could always return the drive if I felt that it was a waste of money. I mean, at the time I was just going by all of the posts from people who were raving about their new solid state drive. lol


Edited by TwoCables - 9/15/13 at 12:37am
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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post #26 of 27
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

I don't know how to answer this other than by sharing my experience:

I've always had a 2-drive system where one is for C: and one is for D:. This makes it easy for me to format and start over. At some time after 2008, I gradually upgraded from two 7200 RPM hard drives to two 150GB VelociRaptors. Then some time after that, I replaced one of the VelociRaptors with a good solid state drive for my C: drive (good for that time). I noticed a difference right away.

Eventually, I soon decided to see what it would be like if I disconnected the VelociRaptor that was remaining (which was my D: drive) in order to simulate what it would be like if I replaced that VelociRaptor with a solid state drive. So, I shut down, disconnected it, and turned it back on. Right away, I noticed that Windows loaded even faster. I even noticed that my system felt even snappier than before just by disconnecting that VelociRaptor.

Confused, I decided to look into getting another solid state drive so that I would then be able to keep my 2-drive setup without having to be bogged down by a hard drive - even a fast VelociRaptor. Many people back then had just one storage drive and it was a solid state drive, so I was determined to replace that VelociRaptor so that I could enjoy that superior performance of not having any hard drives connected without sacrificing my 2-drive setup.

So, I eventually replaced that VelociRaptor with a solid state drive and it's been bliss ever since because I got that boost in speed that I experienced back when I simply disconnected the VelociRaptor. Windows starts and restarts significantly faster, programs open just as fast as they do when they open from memory, and of course it's faster just in general whenever drive reads or writes are involved. I basically live at my computer, so it's well worth it. However, this isn't to say that I think everyone would feel that it's worth it. It's just something that you have to think about and decide for yourself. Although, back in 2011 I upgraded from an E8400 @ 4.0 GHz in an EP45-UDP3 with nice DDR2 1200 G.SKILL Pi memory and a GTX 470 to what I have now and it was a massive upgrade. Yet, before I ever began thinking about upgrading, I was telling people here on OCN left and right that I have no need to upgrade, that my current system is overkill for me, and that upgrading would be a huge waste of my money. I mean seriously, that system was plenty fast for what I do, yet I still feel that my money was very well spent on the Sand Bridge upgrade! I know, this is contradicting to "make up your own mind", but I feel it's worth mentioning because sometimes it's like food: you won't know until you try it.

I wish I could give a the technical kind of answer that you're asking for here because I know how helpful it would be in helping you make an informed decision one way or the other, but I can't. For me, I figured that I could always return the drive if I felt that it was a waste of money. I mean, at the time I was just going by all of the posts from people who were raving about their new solid state drive. lol

Wow, thanks man.

Right now i'm on the "****tiest" computer you could ever imagine.

CPU - Celeron D 3.07 GHz.
RAM - 3.5 GB.
GPU - ATI radeon HD 4350.
HDD - WD caviar 80 GB.

if you think fishing teaches patience , come try my computer....
post #27 of 27
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Originally Posted by iNfiniGUN View Post


Wow, thanks man.

Right now i'm on the "****tiest" computer you could ever imagine.

CPU - Celeron D 3.07 GHz.
RAM - 3.5 GB.
GPU - ATI radeon HD 4350.
HDD - WD caviar 80 GB.

if you think fishing teaches patience , come try my computer....

 

Ha, try the computer I had right before my sig rig was born (it was born with an E2180, 2 GB of DDR2 800 and an 8600 GTS, which wasn't all that bad for me at the time):

 

500 MHz Pentium III

 

384 MB of memory

 

Voodoo3 3000 AGP (yep! hehe)

 

A 5400 RPM 40 GB IDE hard drive, probably a Barracuda or Caviar.

 

This was a Gateway computer that had the word "Performance" on the front! It was a real badass. hehe

 

I was using that computer until the March of 2008, with Windows XP on it. lol

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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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