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@hyp3rtraxx: it is a beast of a power supply and its nice not having to worry about power issues. But with 3 oc'd 580's and an 8350 oc'd, my rig sucks some juice. As for my 3dmark11, for me that's what overclocking is all about! get the best performance out of what you have and make it last as long as you can until it isnt relevant anymore. Unless of course you are going for records and what not, but i just game and benchmark here and there.

@miklkit: 1.575v in the bios is really high, it's over the "safe" voltage. As stated earlier in this thread, amd recommends a max voltage of 1.55v for safe operation. You can go over it but you have a high risk of destroying the chip, even if you have an awsome cooler. The chips can only take so much voltage. as for the spike we had talked about was to do with LLC. like when you have a high level of LLC active and you load your cpu, you'll get a voltage spike that is too fast for hw monitor to pick up on. It may not do any immediate damage to the chip, but over time it will wear away. As for when you stress your chip, that drop in voltage is due to your board does not have llc and it cannot compensate for the load. Check out this thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1325787/msi-990fxa-gd80-v2-vcore-droop.


Nice you are second best in the world at 3dmark11 with your rig competing against others with same cpu and gpu´s biggrin.gif Cause i saw you habve 3 results over your points in 3dmark but that was all from same guy so. I think you would beat him if you really wanted to, hes probably goes to the extreme to get first place. Just oc your cpu to 5.3ghz and oc those gpu´s some more. Wait until winter and open window and put rig there, and there you go, you would beat him biggrin.gif
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Hmmmm... Very interesting... I may have to do that! It's already cooling off here in MI... We'll see what I can squeeze out!
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I started a thread a while ago and got a lot of very good answers about coolers and case cooling. For me the HE01 was the best fit but I came real close to getting the Dark Rock Pro II. I've updated my sig pics but here is how it fits in a mid size case. Note I fired up the chain saw and opened up a big hole in the back of the case for air flow. That made it run cooler and quieter.


Maybe I will try higher volts, but so far all more volts does is raise temps. I suspect that 4.8ghz would have it at 60C too.
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I started a thread a while ago and got a lot of very good answers about coolers and case cooling. For me the HE01 was the best fit but I came real close to getting the Dark Rock Pro II. I've updated my sig pics but here is how it fits in a mid size case. Note I fired up the chain saw and opened up a big hole in the back of the case for air flow. That made it run cooler and quieter.


Maybe I will try higher volts, but so far all more volts does is raise temps. I suspect that 4.8ghz would have it at 60C too.

Whoah, thats a massive cooler! Looks nice, try aim at 4.8ghz!
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ok, I took it to 4.8ghz last night by bumping the cpu multi to 23 and going up 3 clicks on the volts. It was stable but the volts were spiking to 1.56V. Temps hit 59-60C.

Since I know almost nothing about setting cpu-nb ratios, ht link speed, or ram clocks I'll be looking there next. In the meantime 4.7ghz is good.
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4.7 is a good clock for this chip. Im @4.8 myself. Im going to try to push higher for benchmarks sake. From what ive found these chips like the ht-cpu-nb speeds matched. I read somewhere, cant remember the post redface.gif/, that 2500-2500 yielded good results. I know stock on these are 2600, but i dont know if the cpu-nb will go that high... mine is currently @ 2400ht-2400cpu-nb and scores an 8.2 cinebench. mess with it a bit. look at some of the amd posts around to see the safe voltages and what not.

@hyp3rtraxx, I modded my gpu bios and upped my voltage. was able to get to 990mhz and a score of P15523, tomorrow im going to mess with my connections and see if i can get that 1ghz!
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4.7 is a good clock for this chip. Im @4.8 myself. Im going to try to push higher for benchmarks sake. From what ive found these chips like the ht-cpu-nb speeds matched. I read somewhere, cant remember the post redface.gif/, that 2500-2500 yielded good results. I know stock on these are 2600, but i dont know if the cpu-nb will go that high... mine is currently @ 2400ht-2400cpu-nb and scores an 8.2 cinebench. mess with it a bit. look at some of the amd posts around to see the safe voltages and what not.

@hyp3rtraxx, I modded my gpu bios and upped my voltage. was able to get to 990mhz and a score of P15523, tomorrow im going to mess with my connections and see if i can get that 1ghz!

Did you mod gyour gpu´s to max volt and,tdp and fans to able to run at 100% for benhcing?
and i realize that you,got some components that put off alot of heat, but what about maybe adding another water resoiroar and maybe a nother pump to use after te gpu´s coolers'? So you can reach and probably go over 5ghz limit snd maybe 5.1ghz-5.3ghz? and what ive read you should try to keep your ht/nb at 2600mhz, not a big difference. I can go up to 2400mhz at my nb@stock voltages cause there isnt a option to increase cpu*/nb volt on my crappy motherboard (and its consider a semi high end mobo). I have written to gigabyte about this but they blame it on the "nb core" or "nb voltage" in bios wich doesnt increase my cpu/nb volt a bit frown.gif Never a gigabyte board again and i would advice my m8s not to get a gigabyte, not at least if they dont intend it to keep it at stock anyway.
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I'm still playing with my cpu-nb/ht and seeing the results. as for my pumps i have one pump that pushes through my cpu and gpus and than a second pump after the gpus to push through the radiators. they're both swiftech D5's so they're pretty beefy pumps. we shall see how my cooling does, i know the temp limit on these chips is pretty hefty, think i read 65-70deg c, correct me if im wrong so i have some head room, and im going to mess around tonight with my clock speeds and what not. have to mess with my power connectors though as my psu has multiple 12v rails and i think i have it wired incorrectly as im getting a nasty vdrop. as for my gpu bios i just upped the max voltage to 1.213, no real use for fan speed as all 3 are under water. While benching my gpus, they dont break 54 deg c @ 100% load... lots of head room and no worries about running at 1.213, just have to get my vdrop under control and it will be all good. gonna shoot for 5ghz but we shall see.
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I'm still playing with my cpu-nb/ht and seeing the results. as for my pumps i have one pump that pushes through my cpu and gpus and than a second pump after the gpus to push through the radiators. they're both swiftech D5's so they're pretty beefy pumps. we shall see how my cooling does, i know the temp limit on these chips is pretty hefty, think i read 65-70deg c, correct me if im wrong so i have some head room, and im going to mess around tonight with my clock speeds and what not. have to mess with my power connectors though as my psu has multiple 12v rails and i think i have it wired incorrectly as im getting a nasty vdrop. as for my gpu bios i just upped the max voltage to 1.213, no real use for fan speed as all 3 are under water. While benching my gpus, they dont break 54 deg c @ 100% load... lots of head room and no worries about running at 1.213, just have to get my vdrop under control and it will be all good. gonna shoot for 5ghz but we shall see.


Ahh stupid me forgot you are under water cooling your gpu´s. My voltage wall comes at exactly 8.447 ghz so i am staying at 4.810ghz to a have a little bit of headroom@1.488vcore. What do you have your llc at? I have mine at "ultra high" and doesnt see any voltage spikes. Safe temp is 62c for these cpu´s and safe voltage is 1.55vcore but when u watercool it becomes alot different if you ask me. If watercooled you can pass the safe vcore at 1.55c as long as temps are fine wink.gif
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I started a thread a while ago and got a lot of very good answers about coolers and case cooling. For me the HE01 was the best fit but I came real close to getting the Dark Rock Pro II. I've updated my sig pics but here is how it fits in a mid size case. Note I fired up the chain saw and opened up a big hole in the back of the case for air flow. That made it run cooler and quieter.


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I'm still playing with my cpu-nb/ht and seeing the results. as for my pumps i have one pump that pushes through my cpu and gpus and than a second pump after the gpus to push through the radiators. they're both swiftech D5's so they're pretty beefy pumps. we shall see how my cooling does, i know the temp limit on these chips is pretty hefty, think i read 65-70deg c, correct me if im wrong so i have some head room, and im going to mess around tonight with my clock speeds and what not. have to mess with my power connectors though as my psu has multiple 12v rails and i think i have it wired incorrectly as im getting a nasty vdrop. as for my gpu bios i just upped the max voltage to 1.213, no real use for fan speed as all 3 are under water. While benching my gpus, they dont break 54 deg c @ 100% load... lots of head room and no worries about running at 1.213, just have to get my vdrop under control and it will be all good. gonna shoot for 5ghz but we shall see.


Ahh stupid me forgot you are under water cooling your gpu´s. My voltage wall comes at exactly 8.447 ghz so i am staying at 4.810ghz to a have a little bit of headroom@1.488vcore. What do you have your llc at? I have mine at "ultra high" and doesnt see any voltage spikes. Safe temp is 62c for these cpu´s and safe voltage is 1.55vcore but when u watercool it becomes alot different if you ask me. If watercooled you can pass the safe vcore at 1.55c as long as temps are fine wink.gif


I got a idea, or well you did. So i got to work this morning just now and opened the mesh for the intake hole at the back of my case hehe. seems like it done the water run cooler already and therefor the cpu temp as well. Gona replace alot of fans today tryin to lower temps. I got 2*140mm as inate, 4*120m as intake (counting the 2 *120mm intake at my radiator, as they are intake as well and 2*140mm as exhaust at the top. Problem is that one of the 140mm exhaust is sitting on top of the radiator or directly over it. And i want cold air or at least as much as cool air i can get on the radiator. I know hot air raise upwards but im gonna switch the 2*140mm at teh top as intake as well to get some fresh cold air directly over the radiator and as an extra it will blow cold air over my vrms and ram and cpu block. And use all fans as intake and have exhaust on the 2 *120mm at front. That will get alot of cold air and might create a ´positive air pressure wih cold air. no idea how good thta is but gonna make it a try smile.gif
Ahh i almost forgot i got a 60mm fan over the vrms as an extra percausion, but my nb gets hot, its 40c atm smile.gif But im just browsing/listening to music but the hottest ive seen it is at 63-65c or so when gaming.
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