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Uh yeah. That pretty much happens with every new design. That gets fixed with bios updates. It's been out now almost a year,so I'm pretty sure any issues have been corrected.
http://hwbot.org/submission/2369111_

Uh I had the most updated bios... The board was junk. Settings wouldn't stick in bios. Set my ram to 1600,1866 etc... And all the board did was put them at 1333. Never once ran my ram at rated speeds. And the LLC is a joke its all backwards and half the time doesn't work right. The Crosshair on the other hand was awesome.

*Edit* and I dont understand the hwbot you posted? It shows a memory OC record using the Crosshair? Crosshair FTW
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I just replaced mine after a month of use with a Sabertooth R2 yesterday, so I'm still a tad
raw about it.

My single gripes are the USB3 drivers are rubbish in Windows 7, I never got them to work at all
although Mint seemed to use them as usb2 if not 3. I don't have a usb3 device to test with anyway, so
I could have lived with that.

But..

Second was the hardware monitoring was a kludge in my opinion for this level of board.
I come from Intel BX and GX dual server boards with dual P3's back in the day.
I'm a stickler for details. And I'm old and lazy.
Only two of the fan headers, the PWM CPU1 and one of the chassis fans that was 4pin, would thermally throttle a fan via
bios control, and they would not do so with a non-PWM 3pin fan, and the rest of the 3pin chassis
fan headers were manual control only. The windows software was crap, and I run Linux
for work 10 hours a day so the lack of bios level thermal fan control on the chassis
headers was an issue. The CPU fan header is PWM with a slaved 3pin of sorts, both
controlled by one setting in bios or software, and no software could read RPM off them
both except for the crappy Asrock stuff, which one had to open, then close, for SpeedFan
to see the CPU fan reading. SpeedFan after a TON of screwing with would control a couple of
the 3pin headers, but it was buggy and imperfect enough to be an issue. Software fan
control isn't what it could be in Linux, so I needed bios level control. Big case, lots of fans.

My options were to buy a fan controller, the only
one of which I could determine would do what I wanted was the Lamptron CW611
that is $100 a pop, or replace four to six good 3 pin fans with PWM units at nearly
as high a cost, or build my own fan controller to translate the PWM signal from that one
chassis fan header to voltage control for the case fans. I could have done that with the
assistance of an electrical engineer and we discussed it, but I deliberated a few weeks
and opted to replace the board.

All that being said, it was a great board otherwise. The bios was full featured enough for me as
a semi-power user I guess, my memory ran as fast as it ever has, my 1090t did the 4ghz with a tiny voltage increase
via multiplier like always, everything worked. The board is physically well laid out and well made,
I'd even say from a somewhat-laymans perspective, it's as or better made than the Asus I replaced it with.
Asrock packaging and goodies bundle was well above what the Sabertooth came with (same price for both).
I know that has nothing to do past the first ten minutes but it's still of note to me.
Basically they were aiming to be a way upper middle class board and hit it in my opinion, other than
someone dropped the ball on hardware monitoring or they decided the target audience was going to run a
fan controller anyway or such, I don't know. At this level though the software was inexcusably crappy, and the
monitoring hardware.

At best I've blown $50 for a months use of this Asrock(which is for sale), I really wish I could keep using it, but this rig will last
the next two or three years since I'm old and don't upgrade much anymore. So I went for round two and
got a board that so far is doing what I want. I miss the Intel ethernet since I'm confident in it's
compatibility and performance, and the reviews and propaganda on the power stage of the Asrock were convincing,
but beyond that (and another $180usd) I'm not missing anything else
with the Sabertooth. If you don't care too much about hardware monitoring or
USB3 the Asrock is awesome.

That's my mini-rant/review of the stuff none of the 20 in depth online hardware reviews I read about
it before buying forgot to mention. smile.gif
 
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post #13 of 73
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Uh I had the most updated bios... The board was junk. Settings wouldn't stick in bios. Set my ram to 1600,1866 etc... And all the board did was put them at 1333. Never once ran my ram at rated speeds. And the LLC is a joke its all backwards and half the time doesn't work right. The Crosshair on the other hand was awesome.

*Edit* and I dont understand the hwbot you posted? It shows a memory OC record using the Crosshair? Crosshair FTW

Didn't look at his screenshot,I know he's benched the E9,can't say now which one was used.My bad. Their LLC is different than Asus I will give you that,takes a little getting used to.Also I was not so much expecting the ASRock to be better than the $50 more Crosshair,more in line with the SaberTooth. Asus has their problems too.
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Uh I had the most updated bios... The board was junk. Settings wouldn't stick in bios. Set my ram to 1600,1866 etc... And all the board did was put them at 1333. Never once ran my ram at rated speeds. And the LLC is a joke its all backwards and half the time doesn't work right. The Crosshair on the other hand was awesome.

*Edit* and I dont understand the hwbot you posted? It shows a memory OC record using the Crosshair? Crosshair FTW

I am having the same problems. I've been trying to get it stable for weeks! There are bugs in the cpu tables and the CPUNB voltage will set itself to 1.4 occasionally (1.35 is max safe). Honestly the bios is a joke. I'm using v1.5 and there's OBVIOUS bugs here! It looks really good on paper, but save yourself the endless problems and buy ASUS or MSI or ANYTHING but ASROCK. The LLC is incorrect/backwards/something and the everything to do with ram settings is utter crap. Auto doesn't work obviously, but manually setting the correct timings doesn't work either. I have tried everything in the book to get the ram working properly including making sure it's not the ram in the first place. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif 2 restarts may be required to apply settings, XMP profiles will not properly be detected or work manually AT ALL. The voltages you set are just a suggestion, they will change to something else and cause the board to become unstable after a couple restarts. And the software that comes with it like the ramdisk thing can nuke your OS. Seriously after using that I could not install or start any programs and had to re install windows. I searched for solutions and called support but there was nothing I could do (and nobody answered either). Getting it to boot on stock settings is very hard. You must under clock the northbridge to 2000 MHz to boot and raise the HT voltage to stay stable. Underclocking the FSB to 195 also works. Effectively overclocking anything is impossible. I did get my 6350 to 4.6 GHz but it only read a 5600 for physics in 3dmark as opposed to the stock 5500 score @ 3.9 GHz.
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Same situation I had. Bow having issues with the asrock a88x. Not as bad as the e9 but still annoying. I am staying and recommending to clients to steer clear of asrock.
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So is there anything I should do for now? I mean I've probably restarted my computer 40 times in the past 2 hours I've been working on it.
I've had it for more than a month, so I can't return it to newegg easily. I've never used a warranty on anything before.
Should I return this or is there some hope?

And what should I get if I do return this? I don't need mroe than 1 pci-e slot, but I want a full fledged bios. Basically I only need mini-itx hardware, but I want the bios of a Maximus Extreme VI if you know what I mean.
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I'm not sure. I rmaed mine because it was such a piece of crap. The best 990fx board I have ever owned was the Crosshair V Formula Z but that board is expensive. But it had no issues like the AssRock board had. So I always thought it was worth the extra $
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I had reasons for getting rid of mine, but none of the stability or configuration issues at all you are. I would check your ram, psu, cpu, etc real close. Mine was very fast and stable with 16gig, 4 sticks of gskill manually set to the xmp rated timings and a 1090T @4ghz or so. It sucked for other reasons, but not stability or such. I had to learn the backwards llc and some other stuff, but it was pretty well documented. Something is wrong imo.

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I sold the crosshair to go z87. Regreting that.
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