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Long story short: I want to create a RAID0 with a bunch of small-ish SSDs to create a high IOPs/throughput storage pool to basically crank through a huge TFS build that normally takes 15 minutes on a "normal" computer... but I need it to get done much faster on our "Build" server, and the main culprit for the slow times is storage.

So basically, whats the highest anyone has pushed the onboard z87 (or even z77, or really any chipset that supports Intel RST)? I am really just asking because I don't really want to get a raid card if I don't need to. If I can hit 1.5+ GB/s that would be substantial.

According to this article: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6161/intel-brings-trim-to-raid0-ssd-arrays-on-7series-motherboards-we-test-it they certainly hit 1GB/s average read, 300MB/s write with two drives,
But specifically I want to know what would happen if I put 5x of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167154 for instance, would I get 2.5GB/s read and 2GB/s write, or significantly less? Or even other drives with higher IOPs?

Sorry for my long-winded question, and if this is in the wrong place, sorry! Figured the main point in here is the capabilities of Intel's software raid on the z87 platform.

Thanks for any help!
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The limiting factor is the Intel DMI 2.0 connecting the CPU to the PCH. This has two 20Gbps lanes; one up, one down.

I would expect 1.5GB/s, maybe a bit more, to be easily usable by the SATA ports, but over 2GB/s is likely going to be physically impossible, even if no other devices attached to the PCH are in use (a rare scenario).
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Thanks for the quick reply!

Yeah this computer's one and ONLY job will be building TFS projects, so a i5 with the SSDs and thats about it.

Though you saying the lanes speed thing just made me realize the answer was kind of right in my face the whole time.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/performance-chipsets/z87-chipset-diagram.html

The SATA ports don't use the DMI, but on that diagram it DOES say up to 6Gb/s max. so just under 1GB/s if that is true.
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What's your budget?

It might make more sense to get something like a Revodrive, bypassing the limits of SATA, instead of multiple drives/RAID.

There are faster alternatives, but most are server grade and obscenely expensive.
    
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Yeah I totally considered that, since: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227744 says 1.5GB/s and 1.2GB/s and is priced pretty nicely. (I do not need a ton of space, just as much speeeeed as I possibly can)

No budget per-say, but cheaper is better. If it takes $200-300 more to get even a semi-decent speed boost then I would consider it worth it.
I am actually doing this as preemptive research for when my boss tells me we need a faster build server when we start doing gated check-ins tongue.gif

I also figured it would be cheaper to use several smaller SSDs in RAID for when they eventually die instead of one big Revo drive, and that would still let us use it one drive down while waiting on a replacement. This isn't going to be a "production" server exactly but uptime would be fairly important.

I appreciate the help! I can't seem to find any examples of what I am looking for. Even if that Aandtech review would have used ONE more drive I would have my answer.
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The SATA ports don't use the DMI, but on that diagram it DOES say up to 6Gb/s max. so just under 1GB/s if that is true.

Everything that is part of the PCH, including the SATA ports, ultimately communicate with the CPU via DMI. The only exception is the on-board video out via the FDI.

You can absolutely exceed 6Gbps total bandwidth, because that bandwidth is per port, making DMI the limiting factor.
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I remember reading on one of Intel's product specifications that DMI 2.0 is capped at 2 GB/s. That's shared bandwidth among SATA, USB, NIC and other non-graphics PCIe devices connected to the chipset. There was a thread on the SSD subforums with RAID-0 of 4x Samsung 840 Pro 128GB which shows bandwidth capping out at around 1.2~1.5GB/s iirc. Would be interesting to see what the bandwidth of 3-way RAID-0 would be like as I'm guessing the 4-way RAID-0 already exceeded motherboard limits.

Edit: Found the thread.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1397008/4x-840-pro-128gb-in-raid-0-asus-z87-mb

For reference, single drive performance of the Samsung 840 PRO 128GB based on Samsung's specifications is as follows:
Sequential Read: 530 MB/s
Sequential Write: 390 MB/s
Random Read: 97K IOPS
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I remember reading on one of Intel's product specifications that DMI 2.0 is capped at 2 GB/s. That's shared bandwidth among SATA, USB, NIC and other non-graphics PCIe devices connected to the chipset. There was a thread on the SSD subforums with RAID-0 of 4x Samsung 840 Pro 128GB which shows bandwidth capping out at around 1.2~1.5GB/s iirc.

Yes, this is what I mentioned above.
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For anyone interested on 4x and 6x array of 840 Pro's on Z87, jax7480 has got some awesome results :

4x 256GB Samsung 840 Pro's RAID-0 on Z87

and

6x 256GB Samsung 840 Pro's RAID-0 on Z87
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Originally Posted by felix View Post

For anyone interested on 4x and 6x array of 840 Pro's on Z87, jax7480 has got some awesome results :

4x 256GB Samsung 840 Pro's RAID-0 on Z87

and

6x 256GB Samsung 840 Pro's RAID-0 on Z87

That is perfect. Exactly what I was looking for. Basically there is a limit that bottlenecks around 1.5GB/s but that limit is not too shabby, given that you can aim for it (by not getting more than a certain number of drives given their speed.)

I found out this is pretty much null anyways, the visual studio solution I am trying to speed up for my coworkers is built in VS2008 which means no multi-threading, so them moving it to 2010/2012 would boost the build speed a ton given they all have i5s/i7s.

Thanks again for the help guys thumb.gif
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