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From Microsoft (various sources):

'No way' PS4 has a 30% power advantage over Xbox One
Difference between two consoles 'not as great as consumers believe'; Major Nelson 'looking forward to the truth coming out' about Xbox One.

The power difference between PlayStation 4 and Xbox One "is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe," Xbox's senior director of marketing and planning Albert Penello has stated, leading colleague Larry Hyrb to say that he is "very much looking forward to the next few months (and beyond) as the truth comes out" about the power of Xbox One.

So with all this talk going on recently about the Xbox One not being that much slower than the PS4 and that the 30-50% figures being thrown around are "exaggerated" it got me thinking...How is this NOT a lie?

I mean, the PS4 has 384 more GPU cores (which is HALF the total number in the Xbox One - so you're looking at 150% for the PS4 vs. 100% for the Xbox One), it has GDDR5 RAM for CPU and GPU, double the ROP's, hUMA (which still hasn't been confirmed to be in the Xbox One, right?) bare metal access, etc...so how, purely based on hardware specs, could the PS4 not be 30-50% faster? I would think the extra 384 cores ALONE would automatically equal at least 30% faster. How could it not?

Is MS just talking out of their butts or does the Xbox One contain some magical powers that we aren't aware of? Because from what I can see on the technology side of things the PS4 just isn't faster, but it's clearly 30-50% faster EASILY.

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So with all this talk going on recently about the Xbox One not being that much slower than the PS4 and that the 30-50% figures being thrown around are "exaggerated" it got me thinking...How is this NOT a lie?

I mean, the PS4 has 384 more GPU cores (which is HALF the total number in the Xbox One - so you're looking at 150% for the PS4 vs. 100% for the Xbox One), it has GDDR5 RAM for CPU and GPU, double the ROP's, hUMA (which still hasn't been confirmed to be in the Xbox One, right?) bare metal access, etc...so how, purely based on hardware specs, could the PS4 not be 30-50% faster? I would think the extra 384 cores ALONE would automatically equal at least 30% faster. How could it not?

Is MS just talking out of their butts or does the Xbox One contain some magical powers that we aren't aware of? Because from what I can see on the technology side of things the PS4 just isn't faster, but it's clearly 30-50% faster EASILY.

Thoughts?

I have no idea either. Maybe driver optimization or something similair? Also, i think both systems are going to upscale from 720P as i read. If that is true, the Xbox One doesnt even need the extra power.
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Well if upscalling is the case I could definitely see the Xbox One going from 720p to 1080p where as the PS4 would just do native 1080p.

Drivers and what not could help, but it isn't like they can't be optimized on down the road...plus from what I've read it seems that developers seem to agree that the PS4 is easier to work with and with it's bare metal access (which again I've heard mixed things with the Xbox One on this...seems it doesn't have it to the level of the PS4) I don't see how drivers really come into play so much.

I don't know...I just think MS is trying to save grace here, because as I said above, based purely on specs the PS4 is CLEARLY at the very minimum 30-50% faster. Easily.
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Well if upscalling is the case I could definitely see the Xbox One going from 720p to 1080p where as the PS4 would just do native 1080p.

Drivers and what not could help, but it isn't like they can't be optimized on down the road...plus from what I've read it seems that developers seem to agree that the PS4 is easier to work with and with it's bare metal access (which again I've heard mixed things with the Xbox One on this...seems it doesn't have it to the level of the PS4) I don't see how drivers really come into play so much.

I don't know...I just think MS is trying to save grace here, because as I said above, based purely on specs the PS4 is CLEARLY at the very minimum 30-50% faster. Easily.

The PS4 odes do native 1080P, however games are still being made @ 720P - 60fps. Look at BF4: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/08/23/battlefield-4-runs-at-720p-on-ps4-dashes-hopes-of-a-1080p-generation/
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The PS4 odes do native 1080P, however games are still being made @ 720P - 60fps. Look at BF4: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/08/23/battlefield-4-runs-at-720p-on-ps4-dashes-hopes-of-a-1080p-generation/

Oh yeah, I know that. I'm just saying that horsepower wise I could see a game that's upscalled to 720p on the Xbox One being able to run at 1080p natively on the PS4.

720p in BF4 on the PS4 I think is either just because it's unoptimized at this point in time or it's simply just a hardware limitation. While I do believe whole heartidly that the PS4 is faster than the Xbox One it's STILL a pretty slow system in general. So games as graphically intense as BF4 it would wouldn't surprise me if all they can do is 720p...especially at 60fps...

But this is a tad off topic in general...my point was that the PS4 is clearly superior and not just slightly faster as Microsoft likes to keep pushing.
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if someone comes up with a hack/ unlocking feature for the ps4/ xbox one i would really love to oc the hardware since the ps4's APU w/ 7870 has been seen to go to 2.75ghz mark

i can t wait for these consoles
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Wow surprised this isn't going anywhere...posted this on a couple more forums and those threads are blowing up...PS thread just too slow?
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