Overclock.net › Forums › Specialty Builds › Small Form Factor Systems › Help with figuring out mATX vs ITX for a build
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Help with figuring out mATX vs ITX for a build

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 
I wanted to make 2 comparable builds, one for ITX, the other for mATX. I'm having issues deciding on a build and what parts

Features I want and need
- Sub 30 liter case
- Entry level sound card quality audio, I don't like hearing noise on my headphones.
- Quiet as possible. I want to be able to have this on my desk and not hear it most of the time.
- Save as much money as possible
- Needs wifi
- Want to overclock the CPU to around 3.9ghz.
- Planning on upgrading the gpu in 3 years.

This computer is going to be used for creating game art for video games more than just gaming. A powerful CPU reduces time spent baking and rendering, which is why I went with the i5.

mATX
Case: SilverStone TJ08B-E $100
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 $230
GPU: ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB (Just bought) $160
Mobo: ASUS MAXIMUS VI GENE LGA 1150 (wanted to match color, need wireless card) $210
Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-Z87MX-D3H LGA 1150 $125
PSU: SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold (I want the silent fanless mode, but it's kinda expensive) $140
PSU: CORSAIR RM Series RM550 550W $100
Ram: 16GB (8GBx2) of DDR3 (doesn't matter too much which ram, will decide later) ~$120
Wireless card: (haven't decided on one) $25
CPU Heatsink: Reusing Thermalright Ultra-120 if I can get mounting brackets for it. $10
Sound card: ASUS XONAR_DG 5.1 $30

$995 -$160 for GPU = $835 $795 $740 without GPU
I'm pretty sold on the TJ08B-E, seems pretty quiet like what I want.


Case: Fractal Design Node 304 $90
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 $230
GPU: ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB (Just bought) $160
Mobo: ASUS MAXIMUS VI IMPACT LGA 1150 Intel Z87 $230
PSU: SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold (I want the silent fanless mode) $140
PSU: CORSAIR RM Series RM550 550W $100
Ram: 16GB (8GBx2) of DDR3 (doesn't matter too much which ram, will decide later) ~$120
CPU Heatsink: Reusing Thermalright Ultra-120 if I can get mounting brackets for it (if it fits). $10

For the Fractal I might have to modify the PSU mounting bracket to fit the PSU, but I can also pick another case.

$980 -$160 for GPU = $820 $780 without GPU

The obvious place to save money is on the motherboard and PSU.

On the ITX Motherboard, I don't believe there is any other options for the features I want. But on the mATX build, I could easily get a $150 PSU and a $30 sound card and save $30. But I'd rather pay $30 for a matching color scheme.

With the PSU I'm paying extra for energy efficiency and silence, energy efficiency is probably going to save me $10 a year, so paying $40 more for a gold over bronze is fine by me, but $140 is still a lot of money, and I don't need 650 watts.

I kinda want to try to sell my old rig to save some money, because I wont have a use for it, but not sure if I'll get much for it.

Any advise? Feedback? Suggestions? Do I have to spend this much to get what I want in a computer?
Edited by PcZac - 9/13/13 at 11:14pm
post #2 of 5
Your better off going Matx if you want a sound card

If you wanna save money I suggest dropping the ROG boards. It will save you around $50+
Grab the GIGABYTE GA-Z87MX-D3H alot cheaper will overclock nicely. The black board will go with the black and red card

Drop the TJ08 E if you want Quiet. When I had it the 180mm fan was loud at times. Grab the SilverStone SST-PS07B because the 120mm fans are quieter and you can replace for noctua if you want. Also $20 cheaper

Use this for Wifi http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704141
$9 and great

Ram is up in the air. I say corsair and so http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233538 if you wanna do the black red thing. A dollar more gets you Vengance LP. $130 with 0910BTS65 code

Sound card is up to you.

There saved ya around $116.
Micro
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I5-6500 Gigabyte Z170N Wifi CF MSI 970 gtx  Crucial Ballistix Sport 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ 240 agility  Samsung 2 TB Blu Dvd rom NH-L9i  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Samsung U28D590D  Razer Blackwidow Chroma Silverstone 600 wat bronze 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Silverstone ML08 Razer Naga Chroma Razor Firefly Razer Kraken Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
Micro
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I5-6500 Gigabyte Z170N Wifi CF MSI 970 gtx  Crucial Ballistix Sport 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ 240 agility  Samsung 2 TB Blu Dvd rom NH-L9i  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Samsung U28D590D  Razer Blackwidow Chroma Silverstone 600 wat bronze 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Silverstone ML08 Razer Naga Chroma Razor Firefly Razer Kraken Chroma 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 5
Thread Starter 
SPCR says the TJ08-E is a better alternative to the PS07B, temps and noise wise http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1276-page8.html
I can always replace the 180mm fan. I'll have to read more reviews about both.

That ITX board does have a dedicated sound card, I'm waiting for some reviews about its audio quality before removing it as an option.

Yeah I know that mATX board is expensive, I like the idea of saving $75, but some of that would have to go into a sound card, that on board audio has good audio from the reviews, but still, that saves $50 even with a seperate sound card.

Thanks for the advice!
post #4 of 5
With the two systems being of similar price the issue to me is the sound. If you want a dedicated sound card then the mATX is the best route. On the ITX build unless you plan to push the overclock hard I would drop the to Gigabyte Z87N-Wifi and save $100. I have this board and have been able to take my Haswell i7 4770K to 4.6Ghz with no issues other than the fact I was not happy with the heat.

The onboard sound for me has been fine with the Gigabyte board though I prefer to use a USB headset.

Finally on the CPU bracket, do not bother. You can easily get solid PSUs with enough power to handle the system with a 140mm depth.
post #5 of 5
Footprint is so similar I'd say go for mATX it'll be worlds lot easier and better cooling with the Temjin. I have the PS07B because I had a 120 rad on my GPU.

See my sigrig.


Footprint:

9.84x14.72 for node
8.27x15.75 for my PS07B (should be identical to Temjin TJ08E

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Small Form Factor Systems
Overclock.net › Forums › Specialty Builds › Small Form Factor Systems › Help with figuring out mATX vs ITX for a build