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Last thing's.... Figure out how to stash an Aquaero 6 inside the case.
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I do not want to disappoint you but you wanted also the ASUS Rampage VI Extreme or not?
I think you ordered the wrong motherboard !

This Board you order :
http://rog.asus.com/261852013/rampage-motherboards/rampage-iv-black-edition-the-ultimate-lga2011-motherboard/

And this is the real Extreme Edition !
http://rog.asus.com/224992013/rampage-motherboards/rampage-iv-extreme-black-the-ultimate-in-tech-exclusivity/
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First off, awesome! I am so excited for this great build. I never, ever sub to such threads, but your intelligent communication (Something so thoroughly lacking with people these days), and no-nonsense approach have me captivated on some level!

Second, my apologies for the excessively long post on your thread. My intent is not at all to hijack, I just got a bit excited with my geek boner

On top of that, I am finally getting around to a rig that is precisely what I want, with no compromises financially. I have two EVGA GTX 670FTW cards, currently using two Arctic Cooling Accelerometer Hybrid units, but working out the components for my first liquid cooling loop. With your build being somewhat similar, even down to building a new desk (I have opted to use a lightweight door, yeah, door, which was the only thing I could find that was light and sting, as well as being the dimensions I want {30"x6'}, and aluminum square for the frame. I wanted a lightweight desk that could be easily disassembled with no tools, so I am putting two bolts through and threading one side of each junction with a tap, and locking it down with a wing nut, which seemed like it would yield a very sturdy framework.), I wanted to make sure that I took a look at your methodology through the end, see if I can eke out any helpful tips...

Oh! Where did you preorder the Black Edition??? The only place I have found is NCIX, but I have read that they are already out, as they were granted only 15 units from the first shipment.

New components (intended when available):

CPU: 4930K
Mobo: Black Edition
RAM: 32GB Corsair Dominator (Kind of bummed that prices have doubled since my last RAM purchase)
Keyboard: Logitech G710+

Carried over:

Case: Enermax Fulmo GT (Would like a 900D, or Lian Li, but can't justify replacing this unit)
PSU: OCZ Fatal1ty 1Kw
SSD: 256GB Samsung 830 Pro
GPU: 2xEVGA GTX 670FTW
Sound card: Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional/Harman Kardon AVR2650/Polk Audio 45B's (L&R)/Polk Audio 15C (Center)
Mouse: Mad Catz Cyborg R.A.T. 7
Monitor: Samsung 27" S27B550V (Looking for a replacement of 3 IPS units-undecided)

I also wanted to thank you, I have been looking for a stand that would handle three 27" monitors and FINALLY, you have provided me with that, alhough I have yet to go to the website to see it, as I am terrified of the price... lol

Anyhow, being noobtastic when it comes to water cooling, and thoroughly unable to fully commit to any components (primarily due to lacking a base to build off of), I am looking to have redundant pumps with the primary being the MCP655, and a smaller secondary pump, and I was wondering if that is a safe idea? That is, to use two different pumps in a loop.

I am also wondering about the relative quality of the onboard sound from Redline motherboards? As you can see I have a high-end audio system, and I am just curious if there would be an observable difference in perceived quality from my current sound card to the Redline. I am eventually going to have quad GPU's, which will displace my sound card.

Another question I have that you likely have more experience with, is the lowest cost retailer to purchase my water cooling components. Obviously there is no reason to pay more if I do not need to. So far the places I had found (Went to shutdown my MacBook the other day, Chrome closed and relaunched and lost my tabs, so I'll need to start over) had some parts for much cheaper than other places, but then other places had different parts for less. So it seemed like it might just be a wash in the end, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

Again, love the build, love the debezel, awesome to see someone with similar motivations!

Thanks for sharing your progress!
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After having looked at the stand, I am thinking I would probably weld a bracket onto the bottom, so that it is not only heavy and weighed down, but also has the addition of being physically attached to the desk.

I thought maybe that might be something you would have interest in, given that you specifically cited one of my main concerns regarding monitor stands. thumb.gifwink.gif
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First off, awesome! I am so excited for this great build. I never, ever sub to such threads, but your intelligent communication (Something so thoroughly lacking with people these days), and no-nonsense approach have me captivated on some level!

Second, my apologies for the excessively long post on your thread. My intent is not at all to hijack, I just got a bit excited with my geek boner

On top of that, I am finally getting around to a rig that is precisely what I want, with no compromises financially. I have two EVGA GTX 670FTW cards, currently using two Arctic Cooling Accelerometer Hybrid units, but working out the components for my first liquid cooling loop. With your build being somewhat similar, even down to building a new desk (I have opted to use a lightweight door, yeah, door, which was the only thing I could find that was light and sting, as well as being the dimensions I want {30"x6'}, and aluminum square for the frame. I wanted a lightweight desk that could be easily disassembled with no tools, so I am putting two bolts through and threading one side of each junction with a tap, and locking it down with a wing nut, which seemed like it would yield a very sturdy framework.), I wanted to make sure that I took a look at your methodology through the end, see if I can eke out any helpful tips...


New components (intended when available):

CPU: 4930K
Mobo: Black Edition
RAM: 32GB Corsair Dominator (Kind of bummed that prices have doubled since my last RAM purchase)
Keyboard: Logitech G710+

Carried over:

Case: Enermax Fulmo GT (Would like a 900D, or Lian Li, but can't justify replacing this unit)
PSU: OCZ Fatal1ty 1Kw
SSD: 256GB Samsung 830 Pro
GPU: 2xEVGA GTX 670FTW
Sound card: Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional/Harman Kardon AVR2650/Polk Audio 45B's (L&R)/Polk Audio 15C (Center)
Mouse: Mad Catz Cyborg R.A.T. 7
Monitor: Samsung 27" S27B550V (Looking for a replacement of 3 IPS units-undecided)

I also wanted to thank you, I have been looking for a stand that would handle three 27" monitors and FINALLY, you have provided me with that, alhough I have yet to go to the website to see it, as I am terrified of the price... lol

Again, love the build, love the debezel, awesome to see someone with similar motivations!

Thanks for sharing your progress!

First off, welcome to OCN! Second, thank you for the kind words, Third, zero rep be gone+1! Ok, let's see if I can answer some of these questions. Looks like a badass build! Yes, ram prices are disgusting right now. The market is 100% rigged. It's also traded as a commodity soooo yeahh....
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Anyhow, being noobtastic when it comes to water cooling, and thoroughly unable to fully commit to any components (primarily due to lacking a base to build off of), I am looking to have redundant pumps with the primary being the MCP655, and a smaller secondary pump, and I was wondering if that is a safe idea? That is, to use two different pumps in a loop.
I'm not positive about mixing pump's, but I would assume you could cause a flow issue of some sort if you don't have identical power output from both pumps. I'm currently using the MCP35x2, it's ~199.99 but is all the pump you would ever need, unless your name is JamesWalt. thumb.gif
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I am also wondering about the relative quality of the onboard sound from Redline motherboards? As you can see I have a high-end audio system, and I am just curious if there would be an observable difference in perceived quality from my current sound card to the Redline. I am eventually going to have quad GPU's, which will displace my sound card.
While i'm no audiophile, I understand that it has the sound quality of a mid ranged sound card, without a 1/4 inch jack for high end head phones. It does have an optical out for proper surround though. I have one in my current mobo (maxVform) It make's my 30$ speaker set sound pretty damned good, my headphones are wireless USB so they bypass the system sadly.
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Another question I have that you likely have more experience with, is the lowest cost retailer to purchase my water cooling components. Obviously there is no reason to pay more if I do not need to. So far the places I had found (Went to shutdown my MacBook the other day, Chrome closed and relaunched and lost my tabs, so I'll need to start over) had some parts for much cheaper than other places, but then other places had different parts for less. So it seemed like it might just be a wash in the end, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

Let's see... You have www.performance-pcs.com located by Orlando FL. Then you have www.frozenCPU.com Located in the state of New York, they are often heralded as one of the more expensive retailer's, but like you said it just depends on what you are trying to get from them. New York is the tax capital of the nation after all. Here's a list of different vendor's Some of them have gone out of business over the year's due to the growth of frozen & performance. There's one more big one, not on the list, but I for some reason can't remember their name right now.
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Oh! Where did you preorder the Black Edition??? The only place I have found is NCIX, but I have read that they are already out, as they were granted only 15 units from the first shipment.
Assuming that information LunaP came up with is legit, i'm part of that 15 unit pre-order drop shipment. I should be number 12 or 13 in theory.

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After having looked at the stand, I am thinking I would probably weld a bracket onto the bottom, so that it is not only heavy and weighed down, but also has the addition of being physically attached to the desk.

I thought maybe that might be something you would have interest in, given that you specifically cited one of my main concerns regarding monitor stands. thumb.gifwink.gif

The monitor stand is rather pricey, 400$ with shipping, and that's within the states. The foot can be removed, the base has a hole through it which could likely be rigged to go through the desk, all it would require is a hefty plate on the bottom side for stability. I ended up going the lazy route for now & just putting a rubber mat under the foot to keep it from sliding & scratching my desk.

If I missed anything let me know! Making the rounds before work w/ my morning coffee.
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Wow. Rarely do I actually observe people respond, categorically, to my overly excited rants...

That being said, thank you for taking the time! Definitely helpful! I finally took the time, due to inability to sleep, to price out the loop, ugh, I was avoiding that because I knew it would be ridiculous, but it is better than the $1,000+ I was expecting, ~$800 for an awesome loop, not a terribly horrible solution, it could be worse.

I have not settled on fittings just yet, as I am not certain as to what I will need for sure just yet, so the price is a high estimate, I am thinking it will be closer to $720/750.

So, when all is said and done, I will be into this about $2,000, not considering the components I already own, which, well, is laughable when I consider just your fantastically 'overpriced', Nvidia-rape Titans... wink.gif

I too have headphones that are USB and bypass my sound card, but I prefer the surround they provide for gaming as opposed to the positional sound of my speakers. I am able to identify directional sound much better with the headphones than the speakers, probably due to the horrific acoustics of my tile-floored room, in conjunction with a complete inability to get the speakers mounted evenly, and my big ears probably don't help either.

Anyhow, I opted for just cooking with dual 655's, for posterity's sake. My main motivation for the dual pumps is failure. I know these pumps have a high reliability, but so do hard drives, and they fail... I tend to let my computer run quite a lot, and I would hate to wake up to a failed pump and burnt CPU/GPU's, to me, the extra $80 is very well worth the investment.

I am hoping that I made some good choices regarding the rads and the blocks. I read in several places that XSPC Raystorm CPU blocks are about the best price/performance. The Alphacool rads look great, being full copper, and 60mm's thick instead of the standard 35mm's.

Alphacool UT60 280mm&420mm
2xMCP655's (Special Edition with G1/4 threaded fittings)
2xAlphacool NVXP GTX680
Phobya Balancer 150 Res

I have yet to settle on tubing, I have some 1/2-3/4 clear tubing I picked up for $3 at Menards, pretty good bends without kinking, and I read that a couple people have been using it with a kill coil/silver bullet and it has gotten slightly milky after six months, which I am fine with. So provided that the compression fittings hold tight I will probably just stick with that. Unless anybody has logical objections...

I am also curious as to what fans you are going to employ? I am looking at either Noctua NF-A14's, or Akasa AK-FN063's.

That being said, everything is still relatively 'fluid' at this point, and I am open to suggestions. Again, being new to this game I am really playing it by ear as it were, and willing to run with any changes, provided they are reasonable.

I was also wondering if anybody knows if the silver bullet or a kill coil contains a greater volume of silver. I would assume that the kill coil does, but I take issue with something floating around in the res, that could potentially flow into the tubing. That being said, I am sure I could easily reshape it to prevent such a thing from happening.

Hopefully I can get several opinions flowing in, as I prefer to have options for evaluation, as any opinions on the net must be taken with a grain of salt, or a couple pounds in some cases...

Thank you to anybody willing to offer up advice!

My only concern is the motherboard at this point, just hoping I can find it before they are gone and forced to wait on the second run, not that big of a deal, just excited to get this started...

Again, thanks for your thorough response, it is truly appreciated! thumb.gif
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Those new Asus 2011 boards look amazing, I also hear that the corsair fans are worth looking into for radiator fans, my 2 cents.
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I was also wondering if anybody knows if the silver bullet or a kill coil contains a greater volume of silver. I would assume that the kill coil does, but I take issue with something floating around in the res, that could potentially flow into the tubing. That being said, I am sure I could easily reshape it to prevent such a thing from happening.

I don't know how much silver is inside the kill coil, however I can tell you that it never floated around in my dual bay reservoir while I had it in my system, it stayed put at the bottom and never moved after I dropped it in.
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I also have no other expensive hobbies.

Made me laugh pretty good. I have too many expensive hobbies! Trucks-Guns-Computers-Woman... 'Merica! (Not in order of most expensive)
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