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Hi
Can you explain just what this means:
Max Radiator Size – Upper Chamber Side: 120.4 (Mounts not included)
Max Radiator Size – Upper Chamber Top (under 120mm extended top): 120.4 or 140.4 (Mount not included)

whats the difference between upper chamber side and upper chamber top?
so if i want push/pull, just what exactly can i fit in the top chamber? two 480's/420's plus a 480/420? does top mean on the outside on literally the top?

on the st10 you have to specify either a 480 or a 420 fit, it has to be one or the other for that case but either for the sth10?
what exactly does it mean drop in style? i cant picture that in my mind? how does it differ from the stock picture of the case?
side mounts are the same as pedestals? i dont understand, side mounts sounds to me like someone is mounted on the side while pedestal sounds like it goes on top. If its a pedestal mount does that just mean that the top chamber that is shown as fixed in the stock picture is simply detachable and placed on top seperatly?

"Our optional drop-in and side mounts (pedestal) let you assemble the whole thing on your desktop and install it as a single assembly into your case."


the difference between drop-in and side mount?
thanks.
Edited by yesdoitmorelike - 9/14/13 at 2:50pm
post #2 of 7
Hello,

The upper chamber refers to this area


This is what a side mounted radiator looks like


This is the drop-in mount (installed) and the rad mounts on top of this


Then to cover the rad it goes under this 120mm top cover
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The upper chamber can hold, 2 480 rads or 1 480 rad and a 360 rad/PSU. With the top drop-in mount, a single 560 or 480 can fit under the extended top cover with the top drop-in mount.

This statement:

"Our optional drop-in and side mounts (pedestal) let you assemble the whole thing on your desktop and install it as a single assembly into your case."

Drop-in side mounts are a feature of the Merlin cases not the STH10. They only differ slightly though. The mounts work the same way, but on the STH10 they mount from the backside not from the front. The Merlin drop-in side mounts install from the front and is much easier.
post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 
thanks so much for this, helps a lot. Can i ask if you have any pictures of how a black and white case looks? which parts are black and which parts are white? i see pictures of black and seperaly of the white unit but not the color combo. tx.

oh oh i now see you can actually specify which parts are what. Still would be nice to see pictures of the combinations.

also rolleyes.gif can i ask, if i mount two 420 rads in the sides of the upper chamber of the merlin st10 are those top 5.25 inch trays still fully useable?
Edited by yesdoitmorelike - 9/15/13 at 9:07am
post #4 of 7
The merlin ST10 does not have an upper chamber - however, it can be fitted with an 120mm extended top.
So the Merlin ST10's 120mm extended top is for a single radiator only, mounted horizontally - fans on top and bottom.

The STH10, however, has an upper chamber, plus you can add an extended 120mm top to it.
The extended tops are not designed for side by side radiator mounting.

But the STH10's upper chamber can contain sidemounted rads on either side.

See Pongo's build to see 4 side mounted rads in an STH10.

I dunno about the clareance between the top 5.25" trays ... might see that in Pongo's build.

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thanks so much for this, helps a lot. Can i ask if you have any pictures of how a black and white case looks? which parts are black and which parts are white? i see pictures of black and seperaly of the white unit but not the color combo. tx.

oh oh i now see you can actually specify which parts are what. Still would be nice to see pictures of the combinations.

also rolleyes.gif can i ask, if i mount two 420 rads in the sides of the upper chamber of the merlin st10 are those top 5.25 inch trays still fully useable?

I don't have any pictures of a two tone STH10, but you should check this thread to try and find one. The only two tone pictures I have are of the S3.


Socketus pretty much ansrewed your other question, but I should point out that only 120.x radiators will fit in the upper chamber of a STH10
post #6 of 7
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hi.
The specs on the page for the sth10 does state:
Max Radiator Size – Upper Chamber Top (under 120mm extended top): 120.4 or 140.4 (Mount not included)
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hi.
The specs on the page for the sth10 does state:
Max Radiator Size – Upper Chamber Top (under 120mm extended top): 120.4 or 140.4 (Mount not included)

Okay I will be more specific. Inside the chamber only 120.x rads will fit. Above the upper chamber (under the extended top) either 120.x or 140.x rads will fit.
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