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Hey OC.net, it's been a while since I've done anything with my PC (my current rig is almost 3 years old as you can see in my sig) but with BF4 just around the corner and video editing for work taking up a lot of my time I feel it's time for an upgrade.

The problem is I have not kept up with things in the PC tech world so I'm going to have to rely on your expertise.

What I need: new CPU, motherboard, and video card(s).

3 generations of i7's have come out since my 950 was current so what is the best value right now? I have an Apogee XT with a triple rad cooling my 950 to 4Ghz. I'm only going to spring for a new CPU + mobo if I can get a good overclock and the performance increase is worth it.

As for GPUs, I'm familiar with Nvidia so I'd like to stick with them. I was thinking of SLI GTX 760s 2gb or a single GTX 690 (going to need appropriate waterblock(s) as well).

For gaming, I'm going to be playing at 1920x1080 resolution.


I appreciate any and all suggestions, thanks!
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For GPUs, I'd consider 770s SLI versus the 690. It would cost less and 770s would OC a lot better to push a little more performance out of them. Depending on your PSU of course. There is also the 7970 which performs slightly less for about 100 less per card. (I'm a huge Nvidia fan, but my God those things are cheap) I understand you are an Nvidia fan, because I am too. Most of the issue with Crossfire have been solved, as far as I've been told, since I don't have the cards myself; I can't say for sure.

I would consider the 7950 over the 760 though, just because they perform about on par and you can pick them up for around 200.

Unless you are gaming at 120HZ like I am, one 770 would be more than enough performance for you. Then, you can SLI when you feel that it is no longer enough for you.

I'd consider the 4770k or 3770k. They both perform about the same with the 4770k performing slightly better. OCing on the 3770k is easier, but don't let people fool you, the 4770k can OC just as well. I've seen people run them at 5.0 stable. Just depends on your luck with the silicon lottery.

As far as motherboads go, most boards won't hold back an OC, and between them you might get a 100mhz difference which is negligible. Just make sure get a decent quality brand and make sure it's a Z87! I'd suggest the Asus VI Hero. I honestly wish I would have gone with that board. Or the formula. I decided to go all MSI, then my 770s crapped out on me and I ended up getting 780 Classifieds. ( I can't convince my wife I deserve a mobo upgrade. tongue.gif)
post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the detailed and helpful recommendations jameyscott, I'll start looking into those right away.
post #4 of 9
I'm very, very thorough when it comes to research. It took me a very, very long time to decide on certain parts, even though they were only 30 bucks apart from each other. XD I really wish i would have sprung for a different mobo, mainly because of the looks since it no longer directly fits my build and the VRM heatsink is way too high to push pull on my H110.

I only suggested that board speciifcally because it has a lot of features and there are so many good reviews about it. I've heard a lot of people liking the Gigabyte mobos for Haswell also. It really just depends on what features you need or think you might use in the future. I.E. support for triple sli for crossfire.
post #5 of 9
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Yeah I'm the same way, just very little time these days to spend doing so. I'm happy to put your knowledge to good use though! biggrin.gif

Checked out the VI Hero, looks feature-packed and well reviewed much like my Rampage III was at the time. I'll probably wait a little longer for the BF4 beta benchmarks in a couple weeks to decide on the GPUs though.
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Yeah I'm the same way, just very little time these days to spend doing so. I'm happy to put your knowledge to good use though! biggrin.gif

Checked out the VI Hero, looks feature-packed and well reviewed much like my Rampage III was at the time. I'll probably wait a little longer for the BF4 beta benchmarks in a couple weeks to decide on the GPUs though.

From what I understand, as I'll be playing BF4, it might require 15% more power than the BF3 since it is the same engine. Although, I also heard that they used about 30% of what the Frostbite 2 engine could do with BF3 versus 80% (proposed) for BF4.

I won't have a problem running it. tongue.gif Dual Classys ftw?

a single 770 definitely will be able to max out BF4 with a constant 60FPS. There is no way such a high end card won't be. Unless BF4 is just so crazily unoptimized, in which case, I might have trouble with my classy's to maintain 120FPS. I highly doubt that, though.

Another thing to consider is that the 9XXX series is supposed to be announced at the end of this month and be out right before BF4 as I understand it. So, that is also something to consider. It might even drive the prices of the 7xx series down a bit. I doubt it will be significant drop unless AMD is willing to take a significant price gouge to undercut Nvidia. I doubt they are willing to do that, though.
post #7 of 9
Do you plan to keep your HX1000?
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post #8 of 9
OK, hold up.

Kleric, what in particular makes you think that an upgrade is necessary?

Is it that your gaming performance is low? Or is it because your editing experience is a bit slow?

The specifics can change your rig quite a bit. For instance, if you need a computer more geared for computations and editing, then I suggest getting the 3930K and a compatible motherboard and some graphics cards that pair with your editing program.

If it is just for gaming, then I say wait. Gaming wise, you should still be relatively ok. Two 570s should still be better than a single 7970, so you should still be able to max out games. I would not upgrade until there is a bit CPU release like we saw with sandy bridge. These new chips are garbage from AMD and intel. Your overclocked i7 can still give them a run for their money. Sure it is slower, there is no doubt. But it is not yet slow enough to justify the expense of upgrading.
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post #9 of 9
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Originally Posted by jameyscott View Post

I'm very, very thorough when it comes to research. It took me a very, very long time to decide on certain parts, even though they were only 30 bucks apart from each other. XD I really wish i would have sprung for a different mobo, mainly because of the looks since it no longer directly fits my build and the VRM heatsink is way too high to push pull on my H110.

I only suggested that board speciifcally because it has a lot of features and there are so many good reviews about it. I've heard a lot of people liking the Gigabyte mobos for Haswell also. It really just depends on what features you need or think you might use in the future. I.E. support for triple sli for crossfire.

I feel this way about my gigabyte OC Force. Oh how I wish I woulda got the Asus Maximus instead. I didn't even think when I picked up an evga classified PSU and now I have an orange board with red PSU leads. Awful, just awful looking. I yearn for the day I find someone looking to trade. I just cant afford to spend 400 dollars to change boards based on color alone LOL.

As far as the OP is concerned, I didn't catch what GPU he was using, but the rest of his rig sounds plenty fast tbh. If anything Id upgrade the gpu (assuming his current gpu isn't already adequate especially for gaming at 1080p) and sit on it awhile. Soon we will be seeing the next haswells which will certainly be better than the current, and Q1 is Maxwell.

Finding the proper time to upgrade is always tough, but if it were me - and that were my system.. this wouldn't be it ^^

only reason I did when I did was because I was using an 8800gtx and a Q6600. Even then I coulda gone another year =P
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