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Hey guys! My x58 took a dump a few months ago and I've been playing the waiting game. I'll be re-using my current water cooling parts, Corsair AX1200i, and peripherals. This will mainly be a gaming rig with light photo editing (raw) and light video editing. Depending on how much I spend, I may keep this new rig for a few years or until Skylake, basically future proofing. I'm just having a hard time on deciding!! I'm currently running a single 27" 1920x1200 but plan on upgrading to x-star 2650x1440 (3) with another 780 down the line. I plan on running a ram disk for Arma 3, is 16GB enough memory overall? I plan to overclock everything to it's max potential.



4770k

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($208.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($705.91 @ Newegg)
Total: $1419.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-15 03:04 EDT-0400)

I'm also looking into the GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-OC, does the Gene have something similar to OC Ignition?

4930k

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($579.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Extreme EATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($439.47 @ Newegg) (or Black Edition)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($705.91 @ Newegg)
Total: $1895.36
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-15 02:54 EDT-0400)
post #2 of 13
The only thing is price difference man. The 4930k will perform better. Without a doubt. The 4770k however will be a lot cheaper especially with a less expensive board like that. It is up to you on how much you want to spend, but if you can afford it, go for the 4930k.
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the 4930K is a bit too expensive for the piece of rubbish it actually is you can go that route with a simple cheaper xeon some actually can be given a good OC not as high as a enthusiast proc but definitely a good clock.
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For your usage the choice is really easy - 4770k. You're doing nothing that needs the extra cores of & some games will benefit from the better IPC of the 4770k. Clock for clock, chase11 is wrong. There are a number of things for which the 4770k will be superior. I have heard, however, that because the 4930k uses a solder interface between the chip & the IHS, you might be able to OC higher on air/water. But unless you routinely push your overclocks to the absolute limit, the 4770k will be better.
    
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I'm about a month away from pulling the trigger. Maybe asus will release a better bios by then. If i go with the 4770k, I think I'll go with the ud4. Thanks guys!

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the 4930K is a bit too expensive for the piece of rubbish it actually is you can go that route with a simple cheaper xeon some actually can be given a good OC not as high as a enthusiast proc but definitely a good clock.

Xeon in Socket 2011 can't be overclocked except for BCLK tweaking, and that's not going to give you more than about 100-200 MHz core increase before the PCIe bus breaks down. There are no BLCK straps, and the multipliers are 100% locked.

4930K is 50% faster than 4770K in multi-threaded applications that can take advantage of the hex core architecture. For gaming, though, the 4770K is going to be plenty. If you were doing any significant rendering, a lot of video editing, or a lot of H.264 encoding, etc., I'd go X79/4930K all the way.

Greg
Edited by hammong - 9/15/13 at 2:56pm
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Xeon in Socket 2011 can't be overclocked except for BCLK tweaking, and that's not going to give you more than about 100-200 MHz core increase before the PCIe bus breaks down. There are no BLCK straps, and the multipliers are 100% locked.

4930K is 50% faster than 4770K in multi-threaded applications that can take advantage of the hex core architecture. For gaming, though, the 4770K is going to be plenty. If you were doing any significant rendering, a lot of video editing, or a lot of H.264 encoding, etc., I'd go X79/4930K all the way.

Greg
Well people are OCing them without touching the baseclock but I've heard that they are locked (might just be those ES chips)


Still even without the OCing the xeons remain vastly superior since they can get along in low threaded apps while destroying everything in highly threaded apps.
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Running a 4770k and it isn't the best in ARMA3, I'd reccomend looking into the 4930k or a 3930k if you'll be playing a lot of games like ARMA3/BF4.
    
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Still even without the OCing the xeons remain vastly superior since they can get along in low threaded apps while destroying everything in highly threaded apps.

You do realize that's an engineering sample of a $2000.00 Xeon in that Chinese screen shot, right? That's a pre-release Xeon E5-2680 V2. You're comparing a $2000 Xeon to a $600 4930K?

Too much ganja in the Netherlands I think. =)

Greg
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You do realize that's an engineering sample of a $2000.00 Xeon in that Chinese screen shot, right? That's a pre-release Xeon E5-2680 V2. You're comparing a $2000 Xeon to a $600 4930K?

Too much ganja in the Netherlands I think. =)

Greg
yep because it doesn't cost much and gives a boatload more multi-threaded performance.
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