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Hello guys,

I recently bought myself 2x GTX 670 4gb.

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i5 2500k @ 4,8 ghz (max 1.46v)
2x Gigabyte GTX 670 Windforce X3 4GB @CC 1296/MC 3305 mhz (1.175v)

Now I know that there is not a huge difference between the i5 2500k and the i7 3770k, but in Multiplayer games (for example Battlefield 3) my GPU's are always bottlenecked by my CPU ( 50-65% usage on my graphics cards).


My rig should be future proof, especially for Battlefield 4. Would you recommend waiting for BF4 release and see how my GPU usage is on that one or would you recommend upgrading right now from i5 2500k to i7 3770k?

I have seen benchmarks on the BF3 Multiplayer, but there was no direct comparison between i5 2500k and i7 3770k.

Is anyone of you running SLI and upgraded from the i5 2500k to the i7 3770k?

How did fps improve in BF3 Multiplayer for example?

Thanks for any help smile.gif

Sincerely,

Max
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Have the exact same motherboard as you and when i had SLI 680's , my 2500k at 4.8Ghz Did not at all and in any way bottleneck the GPU's.

I still have the i5 2500k just at 5.0Ghz now and already planning budget for my 2nd 780 without having to worry about My CPU being a bottleneck.

Hope that answers your question thumb.gif

If you have the money and WANT something faster then by all means, how ever i can tell you from Exact similar setup, that i5 2500k at 4.8Ghz higher will not be the bottleneck in any 2way SLI / Crossfire setup for quite a while to come.
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Hello SeekerZA,

in Singleplayer my CPU isn't bottlenecking at all. BF3 100% usage on both GPUs
However in intense 64 players BF3 fights my i5 2500k is bottlenecking (if you have BF3 just try 64 players Gulf of Oman) and you can read that everywhere that the Multiplayer, especially on outside of buildings is very CPU intensive with many players and my GPUs usage is about 50-65%.

So unfortunately no you couldn't answer my question, how the i5 2500k and the i7 3770k compares in intense multiplayer cpu bottlenecked scenarios. Anyway thanks for your answer.
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Is your CPU running at 100% all the time? You should try to overclock it. Shouldn't be any trouble getting 4.5Ghz with a decent cooler
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Is your CPU running at 100% all the time? You should try to overclock it. Shouldn't be any trouble getting 4.5Ghz with a decent cooler

yes 90-100% all the time while playing (the core usage is different, 2 cores for example 100% the other to at 95/93%). I already overclocked to 4,8ghz, it's the maximum for my chip without going to unsafe voltage.

I'll give you an example how the cpu is bottlenecking in BF3 Multiplayer. Caspian Border is unfortunately not as CPU intensive as Gulf of Oman, but it's still a difference.

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I did the very same upgrade you mention, from an i5-2500K to an i7-3770K, with dual GTX 670 FTWs. However, I play BF3 on the Xbox360 so I can't answer your question directly.

What I can tell you is that I generally noticed better performance overall. I remember that in some games my CPU usage was at about 90% (which means maxed, don't expect to see 100%) and my GPUs were hovering anywhere between 50% and 80% of usage. The 3770K fixed that.

There are some games however where I notice FPS drops with both my CPU and GPUs not being used fully. I guess that's just bad coding / some other bandwidth limitation.

Also, regarding PCIe 3.0 I didn't notice any improvement in GPU benchmarks between 8x/8x PCIe 2.0 and 8x/8x PCIe 3.0 with my dual 670s, if you're also wondering about this.

I would say go for it if you have the option, but definitely don't spend much for it. thumb.gif
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post #7 of 23
Sandy bridge to ivy bridge, you won't see much improvement. Sandy bridge to Haswell (4670k or 4770k if ht helps) you might see something notable, but probably not worth a platform upgrade if you've got a 2500k that'll run at 4.8
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even with just one card in mp 64 my fps are a tad higher ( i7 4.5 HT off and on) . . .



same result with my amd rig. from quad to hex.
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I did the very same upgrade you mention, from an i5-2500K to an i7-3770K, with dual GTX 670 FTWs. However, I play BF3 on the Xbox360 so I can't answer your question directly.

What I can tell you is that I generally noticed better performance overall. I remember that in some games my CPU usage was at about 90% (which means maxed, don't expect to see 100%) and my GPUs were hovering anywhere between 50% and 80% of usage. The 3770K fixed that.

There are some games however where I notice FPS drops with both my CPU and GPUs not being used fully. I guess that's just bad coding / some other bandwidth limitation.

Also, regarding PCIe 3.0 I didn't notice any improvement in GPU benchmarks between 8x/8x PCIe 2.0 and 8x/8x PCIe 3.0 with my dual 670s, if you're also wondering about this.

I would say go for it if you have the option, but definitely don't spend much for it. thumb.gif

Thanks for the first helpful answer smile.gif

Well I am planning to buy the i7 3770k for about 200€ and I would sell my i5 2500k for about 100€. So 100€ is not that much and I would definitely see improvements in CPU demanding games.

I think I am waiting for BF4 to come out and see how my SLI will perform on that one. BF4 is the game I will play the most in the future. Then I will see if 100€ in the i7 3770k is a good investment.
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You will not see improvement in BF3. HT is really the only difference. HT does not work in games period. Even if it does you will see MAX 10% improvement. Its also hard to get 4.8GHz with 3770K. So in the end you will get same performance.
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