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post #11 of 17
The ssd is MUCH faster, the hybrid just caches a few files.

So no not all games are much faster
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by CravinR1 View Post

The ssd is MUCH faster, the hybrid just caches a few files.

So no not all games are much faster

Yes, but my point is that since if we install games in hdd would not benefit from OS in SDD, then we have that much space install in SDD. The average is 128gb for SSD, that is pretty small amount if someone plays BF3.

Just pure speed, OS/program in sdd is the fastest except ramdisk, but the size is still so small. I thought even os with sdd would make things load from hdd faster as well because I thought there are always things going on with OS, but seem like it is not.
post #13 of 17
The hybrid drives have 8 gb to store most commonly accessed data (including pictures and word documents)

Also you have to wait for windows to boot and new programs are much slower

No ty I'll take the SSD
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by wdgann View Post

Yes, but my point is that since if we install games in hdd would not benefit from OS in SDD, then we have that much space install in SDD. The average is 128gb for SSD, that is pretty small amount if someone plays BF3.

The "average" new SSD purchase is probably getting closer to 256 GB now instead of 128GB. As prices come down and performance goes up, people successfully buy larger and larger SSDs.

As for OS being on SSD speeding up things on a HDD, there is SOME speed improvement simply because all of the Windows DLLs and frameworks are loaded quicker, but the bulk of the application and data loading will not see any improvement.

Hybrid SSD/HDD (SSHD if you like) cache the most frequently loaded sectors, not files. The cache has no idea what the sectors are, it just knows that certain sectors are loaded more frequently than others. It takes time to build the histogram index so the SSHD can speed things up. Just always remember, it's not caching entire files, it's caching bits and pieces of files here and there to make the most frequently requested sectors load off the NAND.

Greg

p.s. I've had a 512GB SSD C: drive since December and none of your speed complaints apply to me. =) If speed is important to you, you need to spend more money.
Edited by hammong - 9/16/13 at 8:45pm
post #15 of 17
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The "average" new SSD purchase is probably getting closer to 256 GB now instead of 128GB. As prices come down and performance goes up, people successfully buy larger and larger SSDs.

As for OS being on SSD speeding up things on a HDD, there is SOME speed improvement simply because all of the Windows DLLs and frameworks are loaded quicker, but the bulk of the application and data loading will not see any improvement.

Hybrid SSD/HDD (SSHD if you like) cache the most frequently loaded sectors, not files. The cache has no idea what the sectors are, it just knows that certain sectors are loaded more frequently than others. It takes time to build the histogram index so the SSHD can speed things up. Just always remember, it's not caching entire files, it's caching bits and pieces of files here and there to make the most frequently requested sectors load off the NAND.

Greg

p.s. I've had a 512GB SSD C: drive since December and none of your speed complaints apply to me. =) If speed is important to you, you need to spend more money.

Life is easy when you can spend money to buy 512GB SSD. I am concerning the price different between 1TB SSHD and 1TB blue + 128GB SSD. Do I really need to spend that extra money for faster load up speed while look like there is already an acceptable speed increase for me from pure hdd to sshd.
post #16 of 17
What kind of HDD do you have now? There is no doubt that the NAND on the SSHD will speed things up. The entire OS is going to fit in the cache, and most of your every day disk access data will probably fit too. The only thing that's not going to be substantially accelerated are big games, etc. that you might use only occasionally.

Greg
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by hammong View Post

What kind of HDD do you have now? There is no doubt that the NAND on the SSHD will speed things up. The entire OS is going to fit in the cache, and most of your every day disk access data will probably fit too. The only thing that's not going to be substantially accelerated are big games, etc. that you might use only occasionally.

Greg

just two around 5 years old hdd. I just try to upgrade but not spending a lot of money.
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