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Navy Hien VE coming in tomorrow evening for me. Won't have a mid to compare but I can let you know what I think...

That'll be nice. Thank you.
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Folks,

Has anyone tried both the Hien VE and the Hien Mid? Is the difference in the mid layer noticeable if you don't put enough pressure to sink your wrist/mouse into the pad? I tent to keep my wrist fairly elevated so I wonder if I will not notice the difference.

I'm thinking of sending the Zero back to try the Hayate instead since right now for me the Hien is the better pad and I doubt I will really use the Zero that much.

How would the Hayate compare to the Hien? Are the two noticeably different?
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post #13 of 19
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How would the Hayate compare to the Hien? Are the two noticeably different?

The Hayate is much faster. Check out this comparison: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32172733/review/Artisan_2012_review-by-tubby.pdf
post #14 of 19
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That'll be nice. Thank you.

Got it tonight. Impressions:

Backing:
Bit more than half as thick as my Puretrak Talent, thicker than Razer Goliathus Control and Steelseries QCK+. It feels ever so slightly more squishy than the dense rubbery feel of the Puretrak, but harder than the QCK+ (but the QCK+ is thin so it hardly yields at all). Less dense than the Goliathus Control for sure. It does require a bit of force to push down, and as I keep a light touch on my mouse I didn't notice any slowness induced by the foam. However if you do push down while moving you will feel quite a lot more friction. As for the actual cells in the foam, they are nowhere near as large as those in the Talent so while the backing may not be as high quality as the more expensive Artisan pads it is still quite nice.

Surface:
The surface (which will be the same for mid or VE) feels quite nice, it's rough on a micro scale so the overall impression is like the Goliathus Control but of a higher quality. Initial friction is quite a bit lower than the QCK+ and almost as low as the Talent, while moving friction is between the slow QCK+ and the slick Talent. As a first impression I find that the balance works quite nicely for me.

Performance:
I gave it a quick test with my FK, probably the pickiest mouse I own. I feel like LOD is a hair lower than the Talent but not low enough to give me problems, and I even stuck the extra set of mouse feet that ship with the FK on top of the stock ones. Max tracking speed was not affected to any noticeable extent and I noticed no extra jitter from the pad in quick MS Paint tests. That is, 2300 has slight jitter as many FK reviews have shown, 450 and 1150 have no noticeable jitter in Paint. Recall that this is the Navy version, so black and red will have different LOD with different mice.

Let me know if you have other questions, and I'll answer to the best of my ability.
Edited by Imprecision - 9/20/13 at 3:59pm
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Got it tonight. Impressions:

Backing:
Bit more than half as thick as my Puretrak Talent, thicker than Razer Goliathus Control and Steelseries QCK+. It feels ever so slightly more squishy than the dense rubbery feel of the Puretrak, but harder than the QCK+ (but the QCK+ is thin so it hardly yields at all). Less dense than the Goliathus Control for sure. It does require a bit of force to push down, and as I keep a light touch on my mouse I didn't notice any slowness induced by the foam. However if you do push down while moving you will feel quite a lot more friction. As for the actual cells in the foam, they are nowhere near as large as those in the Talent so while the backing may not be as high quality as the more expensive Artisan pads it is still quite nice.

Surface:
The surface (which will be the same for mid or VE) feels quite nice, it's rough on a micro scale so the overall impression is like the Goliathus Control but of a higher quality. Initial friction is quite a bit lower than the QCK+ and almost as low as the Talent, while moving friction is between the slow QCK+ and the slick Talent. As a first impression I find that the balance works quite nicely for me.

Performance:
I gave it a quick test with my FK, probably the pickiest mouse I own. I feel like LOD is a hair lower than the Talent but not low enough to give me problems, and I even stuck the extra set of mouse feet that ship with the FK on top of the stock ones. Max tracking speed was not affected to any noticeable extent and I noticed no extra jitter from the pad in quick MS Paint tests. That is, 2300 has slight jitter as many FK reviews have shown, 450 and 1150 have no noticeable jitter in Paint. Recall that this is the Navy version, so black and red will have different LOD with different mice.

Let me know if you have other questions, and I'll answer to the best of my ability.

Thank you very much. I have both the QcK+ and Talent; the comparison between the two worked well for me.

EDIT: In terms of the FK sliding vertically, did you notice the mouse scratching the Hien's surface? I noticed that a lot on my Hayate and Talent - which sucks.
Edited by Syncope - 9/21/13 at 5:36am
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Edited by Imprecision - 9/21/13 at 2:03pm
post #17 of 19
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Thank you very much. I have both the QcK+ and Talent; the comparison between the two worked well for me.

No problem! Happy to help.
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EDIT: In terms of the FK sliding vertically, did you notice the mouse scratching the Hien's surface? I noticed that a lot on my Hayate and Talent - which sucks.

No. However, I have applied the extra feet that came with the FK on top of the stock ones in order to avoid exactly that issue. I can't say if it wouldn't happen with just the stock feet.
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No. However, I have applied the extra feet that came with the FK on top of the stock ones in order to avoid exactly that issue. I can't say if it wouldn't happen with just the stock feet.

I did that too and didn't help that much, to be honest. It kept scratching the surface (my Hayate) - just not as much as before.
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