Originally Posted by rcfc89
By the time the 8970 hits it will be 2 years since the 7970 hit the shelves. For it to be slower then the gtx780 that was released 5-6 months before is ultimately Amd waiving the white flag people. They don't have an answer for Nvidia. Looks like we are back to the 6970 vs. gtx580 days. Amd's attempt to level the playing field has ended.
There's no white flags here.
Reasons for why it has taken AMD so long to bring out Hawaii are somewhat apparent really.
1) Concentrating on console hardware and GCN APUs
2) First big-ish die in ages. (probably took much longer than usual to get nicely clocking silicon, get good yields, etc.)
Honestly just the fact that AMD apparently has after all gone with a 420mm^2+ GPU is something you should really be excited about. It might not be the best thing since sliced bread right now but think about the future:
- These are still pretty much first gen GCN, just look at what happened to Fermi once it was refined to Kepler. What could happen if AMD managed a similar chip as GK110 next gen with as big improvements as NV did this gen?
- They might be gradually increasing the die size as they've proved they're not afraid of going above their comfort zone.
Honestly the biggest thing here is that I think Hawaii has just been over hyped. Just like the original Fermis were. I'm positively surprised at the die size and the potential performance that it might offer. I really don't see much negatives here.