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Originally Posted by Moragg View Post

If it's 1080p then there's no scaling going on... so madvr is useless unless you happen to have a custom 3dlut. Only BD sources will get you this though - for 480p and lower madvr makes stuff watchable where everything else fails.

LAV can decode wmv anyway iirc. So ditch wmp, vlc, and get Foobar2k (for music) and mpc-hc (for everything else). I assume you know how to set mpc-hc up... if not just download the test Kawaii Codec Pack and install that with highest quality settings.

If your source video is 1080p and your monitor is 1440p then there will still be scaling going on and it will essentially be "better" than 1080p video. I have had a lot of fun optimizing this with blueray content and comparing it to the native upscaled look. It is really amazing how good a blueray movie upscaled to 1440p actually looks.

Also video acceleration is not contingent to madvr's processing or use of the GPU. For evidence i have madvr running and the GPU is being used (unfortunately Madvr only uses 1 GPU and does not currently support SLI mad.gif ).
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I'm curious to see how it does motion interpolation for 60hz output (my HDTV) - i feel like itll do that crappy motion smoothing (soap opera) effect that comes with most newer TVs

Or even just general image quality - is it sharper than VLC's highest quality setting, or does it 'improve" it to a point that it actually makes the picture look different than intended.

Madvr has an option called "smooth motion" this is frame duplication that is used to improve motion fluidity but not change the intended look of the video like frame interpolation(soap opera). Also MPC with madvr looks hands down better than VLC in really any circumstance that i have seen or tested.
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Originally Posted by jerrolds View Post

Even Windows Media Player - (for wmv) dont run unless i turn off GPU acceleartion, as well as Chrome video rendering. But if madVR is totally different - then awesome. I wann amake the switch from VLC but i honestly cant tell the difference on 1080p mkv sources.

Madvr will upscale and enhance 1080p video however depending on the bitrate and quality of your origin content it may not be severely noticeable as the quality is already very good. This is also going to be defendant on how far you are from the screen and how good your eyes are rolleyes.gif
Edited by Spartan F8 - 9/16/13 at 2:05pm
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by jerrolds View Post

I'm curious to see how it does motion interpolation for 60hz output (my HDTV) - i feel like itll do that crappy motion smoothing (soap opera) effect that comes with most newer TVs

Or even just general image quality - is it sharper than VLC's highest quality setting, or does it 'improve" it to a point that it actually makes the picture look different than intended.

 

No motion interpolation with madvr. It will blend frames (using a highly accurate GPU method) to reduce dropped frames though if you force it. For motion interpolation you want something like SmoothVideoProject, but that is incredibly resource intensive.

 

No sharpening filters etc., it just uses very complicated upscaling/downscaling algorithms. They are the best available, and will show their worth when (like me) you start upscaling low source quality - e.g. badly encoded 720p (horriblesubs if you're an anime fan) or well encoded 540p and below.

 

Edit: just realised that, since you mentioned OCing, it's an X-Star/Qnix involved, so 1440p. Quite simply, madvr is the best out there, is completely playable on your system at the "recommended" highest quality settings, so why not? I only watch anime so the difference is lost on me, but I would assume that for live action movies the difference would be much more noticeable.


Edited by Moragg - 9/16/13 at 2:14pm
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Moragg View Post

No motion interpolation with madvr. It will blend frames (using a highly accurate GPU method) to reduce dropped frames though if you force it. For motion interpolation you want something like SmoothVideoProject, but that is incredibly resource intensive.

No sharpening filters etc., it just uses very complicated upscaling/downscaling algorithms. They are the best available, and will show their worth when (like me) you start upscaling low source quality - e.g. badly encoded 720p (horriblesubs if you're an anime fan) or well encoded 540p and below.

Edit: just realised that, since you mentioned OCing, it's an X-Star/Qnix involved, so 1440p. Quite simply, madvr is the best out there, is completely playable on your system at the "recommended" highest quality settings, so why not? I only watch anime so the difference is lost on me, but I would assume that for live action movies the difference would be much more noticeable.

Another good point about motion smoothing with madvr is that the excess refresh will actually improve fluidity. Meaning standard 24fps content with smooth motion looks better with 120hz vs 48 or 96hz. I recommend anyone interested in this to take a look at the madvr thread. Just google madvr and it should be the first link(be warned it is over a 1000 pages long)
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