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The US government is always looking for more people they can borrow money off of. All you need is $100 dollars and 20 minutes on the US Treasury website and you're on your way to the owning the safest financial investment in the world that will pay you back when you're around 50 years old.

Oh yea, and they probably need another few hundred thousand dollars to make sure the equipment works with their computers, hiring techs to wire the machine to the rest of the office floor, and checking for chinese bugs in the machine.

chinese bugs are now built into anything electronic that comes out of china, how did you think they are going to take over the world? srsly, your router= made in china. chinease government can tap your connection likely better than the nsa.

OMG the nsa could just outsource to china for data mining and BAM they get all the data and access they want and circumvent the constitution.. and china takes over the world.
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chinese bugs are now built into anything electronic that comes out of china, how did you think they are going to take over the world? srsly, your router= made in china. chinease government can tap your connection likely better than the nsa.

OMG the nsa could just outsource to china for data mining and BAM they get all the data and access they want and circumvent the constitution.. and china takes over the world.

[Dons tin foil hat]
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post #23 of 29
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chinese bugs are now built into anything electronic that comes out of china, how did you think they are going to take over the world? srsly, your router= made in china. chinease government can tap your connection likely better than the nsa.

OMG the nsa could just outsource to china for data mining and BAM they get all the data and access they want and circumvent the constitution.. and china takes over the world.

 

Well you might actually have a point there.

 
In Turkey, the military service is mandotary so I was in the military between 2005 and 2006. One of the highest ranked officers told us that some of our helicopters were built in Israel. So If we ever go to war with Israel one day (not that we will) that helicopter would probably be 100% useless against them and there could be a chip or so somewhere that would deactivate the chopper.
 
Now I am not sure if we have that chip on every single router :D But who knows :rolleyes:
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why cant i do this with bills?
just simply say my mail retrieving ability and email reading ability is shut down, so i cant pay bills right now.
i mean, both cases laws or contracts are being broken.
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just what?

$100 fax machine from a department that has millions in budget spends..?. Furthermore its 2013 has nobody heard of fax server and fax to email ?
Edited by Pip Boy - 9/18/13 at 7:12am
post #26 of 29
This is retarded, no doubt, but the article kind of ignores the fact that most people submit using an online form instead of fax.

"Graves said less than 10 percent of requests are submitted by fax, meaning the machine's malfunction has not prevented most requests from being submitted.

"We only get a few requests via fax per month," Graves wrote, "and typically only from the same few organizations. And most of those organizations fax AND mail/email their requests to be sure that we receive it.""
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Furthermore its 2013 has nobody heard of fax server and fax to email ?

Having worked in IT and done things for government buildings, I think you HIGHLY overestimate how modern the computer systems for government locations are. Fax server is at least a decade away for government upgrades.
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This is retarded, no doubt, but the article kind of ignores the fact that most people submit using an online form instead of fax.

"Graves said less than 10 percent of requests are submitted by fax, meaning the machine's malfunction has not prevented most requests from being submitted.

"We only get a few requests via fax per month," Graves wrote, "and typically only from the same few organizations. And most of those organizations fax AND mail/email their requests to be sure that we receive it.""

Reading between the lines, I read that as "Try to make sure we don't ignore it."
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post #29 of 29
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Having worked in IT and done things for government buildings, I think you HIGHLY overestimate how modern the computer systems for government locations are. Fax server is at least a decade away for government upgrades.

I don't, I have implemented a few rightfax server installs in government organizations already over the last few years smile.gif

They were late to the party for sure but once they moved away from their old analogue PBX systems and onto digital gateway's it was the next logical step
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