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I just bought a 4770k and asus maximums VI hero motherboard. I have no complaints about the board.

I am coming off a 920 D0 @4.5ghz. I have my 4770k @4.5ghz @ 1.275v under custom water loop. In most benchmarks I fall short of the 920.

Is there something wrong here? Should I have stepped up and gotten a 4930k?

At stock speed on cinibench I score a 9.15 with my 4770k at 4.5ghz it drops to 8.5 why would this be?

I have good temps right around 75c after an hour of prime 95.

Any insite on this?
 
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bump!
Unstable CPU overclock for sure.Unstable OC will result in decreased results.It may be something else but my bet is unstable OC.
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Haswell is defiantly difficult compared to the 920. I had years to profect my 4.5ghz on 1366 platform.

Are there any good OC guides for the 4770k? To get me started in the right direction?

Links please.
 
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load cpuz and watch your MHz when running Cinebench, you are likely throttling if OC cinebench less than stock. Since your temps are OK, probably current/power limits on board causing throttling, best thing to do is google search your board, and find which power/current limits need to be set higher...if cpuz shows cpu is throttling running cinebench.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_maximus_hero_vi_review,1.html
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Haswell is defiantly difficult compared to the 920. I had years to profect my 4.5ghz on 1366 platform.

Are there any good OC guides for the 4770k? To get me started in the right direction?

Links please.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-thread-with-statistics/1220#post_20691955 is a good place to ask start with ocing questions. Also maybe drop you clock to like 4.3 and stay at the same voltage as i hear 4.5 is kinda a wall and takes alot more effort
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I will check for throttling when I get off work.

Thanks for the link Darklyric, I have already subscribed to that thread just haven't had time to read through it yet.
 
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Something is def throttling or something becuase my 4770k destroys my 950 in all bench's also alot of folks just dont know how to clock the 4770k to higher which is why its gets bad rep sometimes and also of course silicon lottery.
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dumb question but I have to ask...
certain you have HT enabled.?
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Something is def throttling or something becuase my 4770k destroys my 950 in all bench's also alot of folks just dont know how to clock the 4770k to higher which is why its gets bad rep sometimes and also of course silicon lottery.
Yea the good ones will do 4.6-4.8( much more after a delid) but i was just saying for the sake of stability he should drop his clock a little and rerun to see what hes getting for scores then.
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