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Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro Compound?

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I'm seeing much higher temps than I expected, is the stock thermal compound on the Water 2.0 Pro of high quality?

The best stuff I have found here is Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond

What's the best thermal paste? I'll be wanting it for when I get my custom loop going soon, or is the forumla 7 alright? It's about $5 per gram in the tube
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I have used the Antec F7 and it's actually quite good, but it will scratch the IHS and block over time. I only use it for "apply and forget" applications, such as changing the Northbridge heatsink in my Phenom II X4 960T + M5A99FX PRO R2.0 system that is used as a temporary media pc.

The absolute best overall TIM that I recommend is Prolimatech PK-1 or PK-3. It is easy to apply, cleans up perfectly, and gives me better temps than anything else I've used. I even have it between the die and IHS of my delidded 3770K, and it dropped temps by 22C minimum. The whole liquid metal type of paste, well, I find it extremely over-hyped, an absolute PITA to remove, and the most application dependent TIM I've ever used; I have only seen it give all of 2C lower than the PK1 at best and it's averaged about 2C worse...

Plus, PK1 is hands down the best stuff for the "tinting" application method, which is the way I've been applying paste since 2003, and in that time I've yet to see anything that is even as good as, let alone better than, tinting the IHS/Block.
Basically, you are polishing the compound into the surfaces so that it fills in the grooves without leaving hardly any compound on the raised surface of the block/IHS. You then just add a teeny tiny drop (1/2-1/4th the size of a BB) where you normally would, and mount. The result is that you have more actual metal on metal contact than with any other method, and the paste does only exactly what it was designed to do: fill in the voids. Most people, including on here, use more paste than is necessary, but the fact is that the amount that is truly needed is extremely small. When pressure is applied, the paste should form a circle that uniformly covers the surface, with the edgesofthe circle barely rereaching the edges of the IHS, and the corners should not be covered. If there's any kind of buildup of paste around the edges of where the block andIHS ccontact, you know you have used way too much.
This is one area where there absolutely is too much of a good thing, and I have personally seen a total difference between the two methods ranging from 5 to 9C. The reason is that too much TIM becomes a barrier to heat transfer, when it's supposed to be a conduit.

Anyway, PK1/PK3 get my vote.
   
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Thank you very much for your advice, Is ther a difference between the PK1 or PK3?
I'll be using it on all of my blocks, Koolance-380A for Steamroller, and next gen AMD GPU.

I'm pretty positive that I wont need to touch the NB/VRM's in the sabertooth, It rarely gets over 50C under load with just the stock 8350 fan, pretty confident that these VRM capistors are rated for 80C at 10k hours.

By the "Tinting" method I assume that you're using some kind of plastic spreader to make a thin later across the ihs? I always thought that the BB method was best in eliminating the chance of capturing air bubbles, either by placement of the heatsink, or there being a small gap where they both may be concave like |()| where the |'s are the backs of the IHS and Heatsink.

Does this stuff store well at ambient? It's likely going to save me a few bucks to get a couple tubes for the future.
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