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post #11 of 16
Wholeeo, I'm sorry the DeathAdder didn't work out.

While CtrlAltel1te is quite knowledgeable and makes sound recommendations, you should know that he, like many other gamers on these forums, swears by optical sensor mice. So, everything he listed is optical. While there seems to be no downside to optical mice — and many claim that they are superior to even the best laser mice for gaming — limiting your search to only mice with optical sensors will restrict your options greatly. I'm not an expert on optical vs. laser. I have very little practical experience with both. But I can tell you that my research informs me that this debate is by no means settled, with many professional reviewers stating you can't really tell the difference (to which others respond that you can).

So, all I'm saying is that it's worth knowing whether you care or not about whether your mouse has an optical or laser sensor. And part of this will also depend on the type of gaming you do. By far, the majority of gamers who insist on optical sensors play games requiring exceptional accuracy and extremely fast play, like competitive/eSports first-person shooters or RTS games. If the games you like don't demand you to react at blazing speeds, it is unlikely optical vs. laser will really matter to you.

You said you liked your G500 and that you own a G700. Both are laser mice. The reason CtrlAltel1te is recommending the G400 (or G400s) is that it is optical, and considered quite a good optical at that. The shape is also basically identical to the G500, though it does have fewer buttons (no tilting scroll wheel, for example).

Though it's not entirely clear why, most of the high-end, fully featured mice come with laser sensors. Here are a few with an ergonomic right-hand shape that may suit someone who liked the G500 and uses a palm grip:
- Roccat Kone XTD (gets rave reviews)
- CM Storm Sentinel Advance II
- CM Storm Inferno (ergonomic, but smaller than the Sentinel Advance, so if you have larger hands, don't bother)
- Gigabyte M8000X Ghost
- Mionix Naos 8200
- Razer Imperator
- Thermaltake eSports Theron
- Thermaltake Level 10 (this mouse is quite unique, so not much like the G500, but it is worth trying because of the exceptional build quality...and, since it has more metal construction than other mice, it's on the heavy side, which you said you like — feel is individual; some love it, doesn't work for others)

Some of the above are more like the G500 in shape and feel than others, but all are competing in the same market. I can also tell you that I've had my hands on all but the Mionix (hard to find in stores), and they all feel high quality, with solid switches, mouse wheels, etc. Not sure how many, if any, come with additional weights, as that's a pretty rare feature (though some have it).

If you're fine with a laser sensor, these are all worthy options. I can tell you that the best reviewed of the lot is the Roccat Kone XTD. The Gigabyte M8000X also gets very high praise (and it is MUCH cheaper). I owned the CM Storm Inferno for a short while, and if it had been a good fit for my fingertip grip, I absolutely would have kept it. It has a great feature set and high-end feel (reviewers also roundly praise it).

This may not narrow your search down much, but it gives you some places to start.

- ELB
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
I may look into the XTD. Just worry that one review states that it feels like silk in your hand which hopefully doesn't mean it feels like the Deathadder. That thing felt like I was using a wet bar of soap. When it comes to optical vs laser I really don't have a preference. I don't competitively game on PC and I rarely use the keyboard+mouse if a game supports the 360 pad. There's just some games where I like to use a sniper rifle (Borderlands 2, Fallout) and a mouse is a whole lot better to use in those situations. I do plan on playing BF4 when it comes out so that will be another game I plan on using the mouse in.
post #13 of 16
Materials, being a sensory experience and quite subjective, are a tough thing to describe. What may feel "sweat-resistant," yet grippy to some, may be slippery to another. I can tell you that I've now tried a healthy number of mice. Unsurprisingly, some feel better than others, but none have been better than my Logitech G5. On it, my hands never sweat nor slip.

I'll describe what I can recall of the various mice I listed.

Roccat Kone XTD — Roccat's mice surfaces vary a fair bit, though some are quite slick, like hard rubber. I just can't recall which ones. Here's how one reviewer describes the XTD, though, "The surface materials have also been upgraded. Finger surfaces are all covered in a matte rubber-like material, providing a good firm grip on the ROCCAT KONE XTD. It is relatively smudge resistant, and doesn't lose its comfortable feel even under prolonged gaming sessions."

CM Storm Inferno — From what I can recall, LMB and RMB are that fairly common matte finish that's not terribly grippy, but I still consider it comfortable. However, the sides are an entirely different grippy rubber which was easy to hold on to.

CM Storm Sentinel Advance II — I only held this one for a short while, but it appears to have textured plastic sides (not unlike the Logitech), with smoother plastic (but not matte finish) LMB and RMB. Thumb buttons are covered in particularly nice rubberized grip material.

Gigabyte M8000X Ghost — The top of the mouse, including LMB and RMB, are covered in a pretty slick matte finish that, if I recall correctly, feels high quality, but doesn't offer a lot of grip. However, both the sides are generously covered in perforated rubber material. To my mind, this is grip where you need it (I have dry hands, but don't particularly like grippy/textured LMB and RMB, since my fingers need to move around to press different buttons, scroll wheel, etc.).

Mionix Naos 8200 — I've never seen one in person. From a review, "The entire mouse is covered with four layers of a rubber coating to optimize the grip of the Naos. This also gives all the edges, curves, and buttons a flat and smooth appearance. Part of the design that makes the Naos 8200 a perfect fit in the hand is that not only are there curves to center your fingers on to, but both the left for your thumb, and the right for your ring and pinky finger are designed to fully support them." The ring and pinky finger support is really nice for palm grippers, generally.

Razer Imperator — Never tried this one either. I'd look at either review or, even better, videos on youtube, since they tend to talk about the surface more than the written reviews usually do.

ThermalTake Theron — Plastic, if I recall correctly, and no especially textured. Again, I'd check out some reviews/videos.

ThermalTake Level 10 — Painted metal top, brushed aluminum sides. A few mice come with painted surfaces (this and some Mad Catz Rat models come to mind), and it's actually quite grippy for anyone with dryer hands. I imagine it's not terribly nice for those with sweaty ones. I felt the difference side by side with one matte and one painted finish Rat mice. The matte was slick and cool. The painted surface instantly grabbed my hand. If you want grip, painted is definitely superior over matte. However, I'm not sure this is superior to the textured plastic of the Logitechs. And rubber is sometimes grippy, sometimes not.

- ELB
post #14 of 16
Take a look at the new Logitech G602 when it comes out. It should replace your G500 nicely. thumb.gif
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post #15 of 16
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Well I've decided to try out a G500S and can say so far so good after the firmware update. Love how it feels in my hands. Just sucks that there isn't much of a community here behind it which I believe was due to the terrible stock firmware / Best Buy exclusivity. Would love to know what settings would be optimal for it and what not.
post #16 of 16
Glad you like it. I tried the G500s and the G700s, unfortunately neither wanted to work with my computer, but after the third mouse I tried didn't work with my computer (my current one) I reformatted my computer, and figured out that more than likely, had I reformatted my computer earlier, I would have probably had working mice.
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