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post #81 of 105
hello guys .
i have a z170x Gaming G1 , and im using a riser on my core P5 , im using the 3rd PCIE port on my mobo (16x V3.0) and i have a lot of issue on my motherboard, i cant get to bios (it work sometimes only but when i put XMP on , i got bios failure, and when i change CPU freq also). my pc is only stable with stock settings . you think that the waves interfrences is the reason of this .?
sorry for my bad english !! thank you
post #82 of 105
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Originally Posted by waaouli87 View Post

hello guys .
i have a z170x Gaming G1 , and im using a riser on my core P5 , im using the 3rd PCIE port on my mobo (16x V3.0) and i have a lot of issue on my motherboard, i cant get to bios (it work sometimes only but when i put XMP on , i got bios failure, and when i change CPU freq also). my pc is only stable with stock settings . you think that the waves interfrences is the reason of this .?
sorry for my bad english !! thank you

Can you test it while it is plugged in directly to eliminate the possibility?
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post #83 of 105
i can try because i use hard tubing loop, so hard to change position . but after some test , i think the motherboard is faulty.
post #84 of 105
PCIE Extender cable on PCIE-3 port/slot *must* be a PCIE-3 certified cable/riser

Also, are you using ONLY the 3rd slot, or are the other slots also in use? Because in that case you have probably exhausted the "lanes" available and the PCIE-3 x16 will probably have fallen back to x4 (if not x2 or x1). There are just not that many lanes available on Z170/i5. If you want lots of lanes, you need X99 + 1k USD Extreme Processor

while lotsa Z170 boards come with 4x PCIE-3 x16, they break down as follows (AsRock example)

- 4 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 Slots (PCIE2/PCIE4/PCIE6: single at x16 (PCIE2 preferred);
dual at x8 (PCIE2) / x8 (PCIE4);
triple at x8 (PCIE2) / x4 (PCIE4) / x4 (PCIE6).
PCIE3: x4 mode ...... which means , as soon as more as one card is used, the PCIE3 slot will default to x4. Only when no other slots are used *can* PCIE3 slot run at 16x

And thats AsRock... some other brands just disable one slot (PCIE-3 or PCIE-5) completely when the other slots are in use.
Just like when some onboard SATA ports get disabled when using M.2 'ssd' or eSATA , or disabling internal USB ports whne external are used.

Milage may vary... it depends on the MB... always read the MB manual smile.gif
post #85 of 105
I've got 4 of the thermaltake P5 extenders in the mail right now, but I just saw the amazon reviews for them and am a little concerned. I'll be running 4x 980ti and heard there was some issues with the thermaltakes, have the issues been resolved?
post #86 of 105
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I've got 4 of the thermaltake P5 extenders in the mail right now, but I just saw the amazon reviews for them and am a little concerned. I'll be running 4x 980ti and heard there was some issues with the thermaltakes, have the issues been resolved?

There are revised cables in the mix, but i think they are only for people who like myself are having problems with the old ones that are supplied with the thermaltake P5 case.

So the chances are that you will be getting the old ones......lots of people are not having problems so you might be ok. thumb.gif
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post #87 of 105
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There are revised cables in the mix, but i think they are only for people who like myself are having problems with the old ones that are supplied with the thermaltake P5 case.

So the chances are that you will be getting the old ones......lots of people are not having problems so you might be ok. thumb.gif

I received them today, is there a way to tell from the part number? 2 of the bags they came in had paper tags, the other 2 had stickers directly on the bag. 1 of them came with a broken PCIE clip...
post #88 of 105
Hello peeps,

Nice research OP ::*)

Dual GPU & Core P5 case using the GPU plate & various cables= no go with the cables provided by TK & ordering another cable from Amazon TK store.

Original posted in the TK forums regarding the riser cable issues. If you have an issue with the cable provided post in this thread & they will send you a replacement, a shorty cable for single GPU.
http://community.thermaltake.com/index.php?/topic/43213-attn-users-with-core-p5-using-the-riser-cable/page-4

Update:

Two more cables, one from Amazon & one replaced by TK. Both work unless the bend gets too tight at either end, the female or male ends of the riser cable. The riser cable should be longer like the original one that was packed taco style at 8 3/4". The replacement cables offered by Amazon or TK are not long enough if one is trying to utilize more than one GPU & provide the proper bend radius of the male cable to the MB PCIe slot or female PCIe adapter bottom end of the cable.

Reason:

The riser cables should be 8 3/4" or longer so it is able to provide enough distance so a nice curved bend at the base of the PCIe connector & where the cable fits into the PCIe slot on the mainboard are possible.

Testing:

Different bends, curved, tight while trying to get the largest bend on the cabled end of the PCIe slot & PCIe slot located on the mainboard.

Findings:

If there is minimal bend on the cable where it is connected to the PCIe slot my computer will not boot. If I produce a nice bend relieving stress upon the contacts that connect to the PCIe cable & slot I can boot into windows, but not for long as opening a browser or word document will black out the screen. The more bend the longer I am able to stay working in windows opening programs.

Conclusion:

Since I am working with two cables of different lengths, sizes 8 3/4" original cable & the 7 3/4" from Amazon & TK I am unable to get the proper less constrictive bends to utilize the GPU mounting plate. I would like to be able to use the GPU mount plate since my GPUs have rather large heatsinks, three fans & produce very noticeable GPU mounted droop.

Solution:

Buy 3M expensive riser cables http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/3m/8KC3-0726-0250/3M12028-ND/3641402 or TK provides it's customers that are using more than one GPU with the option of purchasing a non taco cable that is 8 3/4" or longer. The cables TK sells on Amazon & on there website are not long enough for users of more than one GPU.

Please chime in if you are a user of the P5 & are using more than one GPU and utilizing the GPU plate with riser cables.

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Edited by broken pixel - 4/7/16 at 9:34pm
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Edited by broken pixel - 4/7/16 at 10:31pm
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post #90 of 105
I just ordered a 23cm pcie riser x16 cable.. non powered gonna use it to move my 2nd card in crossfire a bit lower to improve air flow.... will this size be ok??? i was gonna get the 15cm one but shipping was twice as long
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