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What a great way to spur technological development! If it sounds scary, them we shouldn't be allowed to use it. We need to go back to climbing in trees and throwing feces if we want a truly safe society.

Nobody encourages that kind of sentiment. Nobody intelligent anyway. So what's your point? Anyway, it's still perfectly legal to get a "machine gun" or a concealed carry, there's just more paperwork.

To be honest, the danger this poses is significant because there's little security procedure and legislation in place for this. As opposed to snipers, gunmen, or bombs, for which there are plenty of procedures and security measures, there's not a lot in place to protect someone against this. Hence why the threat is pretty significant.
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Well sure, but why should RC vehicles be banned because they can be weaponized? I can go to a home improvement store and buy some fertilizer or I can take an air tank, a rifled barrel, and make a mostly silent gun. And security against explosives? Yes, but it isn't foolproof. A man with a grenade got within 15 feet or so of George Bush during his presidency despite Secret Service being there.
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Well sure, but why should RC vehicles be banned because they can be weaponized? I can go to a home improvement store and buy some fertilizer or I can take an air tank, a rifled barrel, and make a mostly silent gun. And security against explosives? Yes, but it isn't foolproof. A man with a grenade got within 15 feet or so of George Bush during his presidency despite Secret Service being there.

Who said anything about banning anything? We hear all kinds of stupid things suggested by Congress. Some of them actually get through. Will this get through? Certainly not. They are simply showcasing a demonstration of the threat these "weapons" can pose. Imo, simply putting a restriction on drones and RC vehicles within a specified area is a perfectly socially acceptable security measure. As for security measures against grenades and such, they do keep the president away from the public. More than 80 feet at times when he's giving a speech. Are there isolated incidents though? Of course there are, nothing is perfect, and plenty of extremely intelligent psychopaths out there.
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Weaponized satellites aren't allowed under UN treaties for obvious reasons. But have you ever heard of Rods of God? Telephone pole sized rods of tungsten are dropped on a target and impact with the force of a nuke. Expensive? Yes. Effective? Yes. You can stop and ICBM but stopping a hypersonic space bullet is a bit harder.
That was a movie. I think GI Joe
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Who said anything about banning anything? We hear all kinds of stupid things suggested by Congress. Some of them actually get through. Will this get through? Certainly not. They are simply showcasing a demonstration of the threat these "weapons" can pose. Imo, simply putting a restriction on drones and RC vehicles within a specified area is a perfectly socially acceptable security measure. As for security measures against grenades and such, they do keep the president away from the public. More than 80 feet at times when he's giving a speech. Are there isolated incidents though? Of course there are, nothing is perfect, and plenty of extremely intelligent psychopaths out there.

Ah, I see. I either misread or misunderstood. Restrictions of really anything within a certain radius of a VIP is more common sense than anything. Jammers might be pushing it, but since RC (remote or radio) vehicles typically operate in frequencies unused by phones, for example, most devices would see no interference, but God help the man without a wired mouse. And yes, that was an isolated incident (and I'm not sure how the man got that close), but there was also a woman who tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan with an M1911. A Secret Service agent's hand grabbed the gun between the firing pin and hammer when she pulled the trigger. Security can only go so far to avert disaster, but it usually does a good job.
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That was a movie. I think GI Joe

Older than that, actually. It originated sometime in the Cold War, and I apologize, I used the wrong preposition. Rods FROM God, as detailed by Wikipedia, are apparently NOT banned either. The treaties I mentioned only banned orbital WMDs, meaning no nukes, bio-weapons, chemical weapons, or dirty bombs, but orbital "conventional" weapons are apparently acceptable.
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