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Recently I read an article on one of the popular technology websites which drew a comparison between multi-monitor gaming and 4K displays, joining the frame in claiming that Nvidia has a superior experience in 4K over AMD. Our experience, however - was exactly the opposite.

First a bit of a background - here at BSN we have more than five years of experience working with 4K equipment, including displays. And while as a video enthusiast and 4K gaming proponent I just have to state that while gaming on a 4K panel is more immersive than AMD's Eyefinity and Nvidia (3D) Surround - the biggest problem lies within the displays themselves.
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When running on GeForce cards (tested with GTX 580 / 590 / 680 / Titan), games would show a Vertical tear (not a horizontal one), regardless of running with Vsync on or off. Furthermore, Nvidia cards would display the Start bar only to 50% of the screen, and the wallpaper was double.

Our test setup - we use 7970 boards from PowerColor and GTX Titan cards from Nvidia.

On the other hand, AMD Radeon hardware (tested on HD 7970) worked simple - just select Eyefinity mode and voila, the task bar would fill the screen, single wallpaper and most importantly, no vertical tear in the middle.
The reason for these issues was simple - the display required two Dual-Link DVI cables and Nvidia consumer cards experienced issues when running in dual display setup. The story was exactly the opposite on the Quadro cards, as witnessed after running the Quadro K5000 - no tearing what so ever, and unified display (single wallpaper). After we worked with Nvidia on explaining the exact nature of the problems, the company released a driver that fixed all of the issues encountered.

At the time, AMD offered better game experience, as you can read in our detailed 4K Shootout article. Bear in mind that we have tested scaling between a single, dual and triple-GPU configuration between AMD and Nvidia.

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And this brings us to the most important part of the whole story. Why would someone write an article mentioning or criticizing 4K gaming experience a week ahead of AMD's launch of 4K optimized drivers and the Hawaii GPU architecture in (you've guessed it) - Hawaii?

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Full article here.

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2013/9/18/nvidia-launches-amd-has-issues-marketing-offensive-ahead-of-hawaii-launch.aspx




Here is the article which pcper did knowing full well the eyefinity drivers are not released, yet.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Frame-Rating-Eyefinity-vs-Surround-Single-and-Multi-GPU-Configurations

AMD's response to this was
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As AMD has already publicly stated when the frame pacing feature was first introduced with Catalyst 13.8 beta, it does not address resolutions above 2560x1600. At the same time, AMD has also committed to addressing these cases in a future update. Details of the rollout for this solution will become very evident, and made public in the very near future.


I expect the eyefinity/dx9 frame pacing fix to arrive shortly before Hawaii's full launch.
Edited by LtMatt - 9/19/13 at 1:25am
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now i am definitely getting the new AMD cards. Thanks nvidia for showing us how good their product will be that you start like a child to say ''bad'' things about your competitor.
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now i am definitely getting the new AMD cards. Thanks nvidia for showing us how good their product will be that you start like a child to say ''bad'' things about your competitor.

i take it you havent seen the fixer.....
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i take it you havent seen the fixer.....

Haha, I found that really funny. Dumb as hell, but funny. Think I'm in the minority. redface.gif
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Haha, I found that really funny. Dumb as hell, but funny. Think I'm in the minority. redface.gif

i thought it was funny, but at the same time kind of sad amd has to drop down that low and actually make em.
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So the title of BSN article would be "AMD launches 'Nvidia is Mean' marketing offensive"?

One article is hardly an "offensive" even if it was sponsored by Nvidia.
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Ugh. I'm getting sick of this.

Gotta stop reading AMD vs. Nvidia news and threads and go back to just enjoying games with whatever graphics card I have.
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i take it you havent seen the fixer.....

is this for multi monitor setup?
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So, they're accusing PCPer of being in Nvidia's pocket, without any proof, and passing off a single article as some devious smear campaign. Ok...
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So, they're accusing PCPer of being in Nvidia's pocket, without any proof, and passing off a single article as some devious smear campaign. Ok...

Which is exactly what happened when they first wrote about the frame pacing issues.
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