Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › Graphics Cards - General › Why are next-gen consoles struggling to run games @ 1080p?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Why are next-gen consoles struggling to run games @ 1080p?

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 
So, lately i've noticed several game companies announcing on twitter that various games on the Xbox One and PS4 are going to be running resolutions below 1080p native. For example, Battlefield 4 was announced to be running at 720P upscaled to 1080P, and Ryse will be running at 900P upscaled to 1080P. Now naturally this both disappoints me but more importantly it confuses me. It confuses me because I currently run a system based on the A10-5800K (384 shader cores), 8GB of DDR3, a 500GB HDD, ect and I am able to play my whole steam library in 1080P @ 30FPS no problem. In fact, I can even manage to play GPU intensive games such as Crysis 3 @ 1080p on low settings without issue.

So why aren't Microsoft and Sony developers able to pull off 1080P @ 60FPS on nearly all their games with an extra 384-768 shader cores?
Trinity POWER
(12 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-5800K ASUS F2A85-M Pro XFX 6670 1GB GDDR5 8GB Samsung low voltage "MAGIC RAM" 1866MHZ 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
120GB Agility3 SSD Rocketfish CM Rebrand Windows 7 Professional 64 HP 23bw 1920 x 1080 IPS Panel 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Blackwidow MX Blue's 550W Basiq Power Modular Silverstone PS07 Logitech G500 
  hide details  
Reply
Trinity POWER
(12 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-5800K ASUS F2A85-M Pro XFX 6670 1GB GDDR5 8GB Samsung low voltage "MAGIC RAM" 1866MHZ 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
120GB Agility3 SSD Rocketfish CM Rebrand Windows 7 Professional 64 HP 23bw 1920 x 1080 IPS Panel 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Blackwidow MX Blue's 550W Basiq Power Modular Silverstone PS07 Logitech G500 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by M3T4LM4N222 View Post

So, lately i've noticed several game companies announcing on twitter that various games on the Xbox One and PS4 are going to be running resolutions below 1080p native. For example, Battlefield 4 was announced to be running at 720P upscaled to 1080P, and Ryse will be running at 900P upscaled to 1080P. Now naturally this both disappoints me but more importantly it confuses me. It confuses me because I currently run a system based on the A10-5800K (384 shader cores), 8GB of DDR3, a 500GB HDD, ect and I am able to play my whole steam library in 1080P @ 30FPS no problem. In fact, I can even manage to play GPU intensive games such as Crysis 3 @ 1080p on low settings without issue.

So why aren't Microsoft and Sony developers able to pull off 1080P @ 60FPS on nearly all their games with an extra 384-768 shader cores?

 

Maybe because they aren't obsessed with 1080p at 60 FPS like PC gamers are.

War Machine
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 3570k Asus Z77 Sabertooth MSI GTX 770 2GB OC  Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
MTD 500gb Sata II HDD Seagate Barracuda 500gb Sata II HDD Samsung (S222A) DVD +/-RW 22x Dual Layer Corsair H80i 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64bit Home Premium Acer GD245HQ Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Corsair TX850W  
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec 900 Razer Naga Custom Skyrim Mousemat Eltax Monitor III Speakers 
AudioOther
Sherwood AX4103 Amplifier Microsoft Xbox 360 Control Pad (Black) 
  hide details  
Reply
War Machine
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 3570k Asus Z77 Sabertooth MSI GTX 770 2GB OC  Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
MTD 500gb Sata II HDD Seagate Barracuda 500gb Sata II HDD Samsung (S222A) DVD +/-RW 22x Dual Layer Corsair H80i 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64bit Home Premium Acer GD245HQ Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Corsair TX850W  
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec 900 Razer Naga Custom Skyrim Mousemat Eltax Monitor III Speakers 
AudioOther
Sherwood AX4103 Amplifier Microsoft Xbox 360 Control Pad (Black) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by M3T4LM4N222 View Post

In fact, I can even manage to play GPU intensive games such as Crysis 3 @ 1080p on low settings without issue.

What's better to the general public, this or 720p scaled to 1080p at medium/high settings? I'm sure it's all a balancing act from developers.
Main Rig
(21 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz 24/7 MSI P67 GD55 Gigabyte GTX 1070 2x4GB Corsair Vengeance Blue 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB, 3TB HDD, 1TB HDD Samsung DVD-RW SATA Windows 10 64bit Hanns G 23" 1080p 60Hz 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Dell S2716DG 1440P 144hz Gsync TN Hanns G 23" 1080p 60Hz Epson Pro Cinema 9500UB 1080p Projector (110") Razer Black Widow Ultimate BF3 Edition (orange) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair TX750 Corsair 400R Steelseries Rival Steelseries QCK+ 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Asus Xonar DG Astro A40 V Moda Crossfade LP Logitech Z5300 
Audio
Denon 1909 + 7.1 infinity surround 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
A6 3420 HD 6520G 8GB 500GB 5400RPM 
MonitorKeyboard
15.6" 1366x768 Generic with numberpad 
  hide details  
Reply
Main Rig
(21 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz 24/7 MSI P67 GD55 Gigabyte GTX 1070 2x4GB Corsair Vengeance Blue 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial M4 128GB, 3TB HDD, 1TB HDD Samsung DVD-RW SATA Windows 10 64bit Hanns G 23" 1080p 60Hz 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Dell S2716DG 1440P 144hz Gsync TN Hanns G 23" 1080p 60Hz Epson Pro Cinema 9500UB 1080p Projector (110") Razer Black Widow Ultimate BF3 Edition (orange) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair TX750 Corsair 400R Steelseries Rival Steelseries QCK+ 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Asus Xonar DG Astro A40 V Moda Crossfade LP Logitech Z5300 
Audio
Denon 1909 + 7.1 infinity surround 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
A6 3420 HD 6520G 8GB 500GB 5400RPM 
MonitorKeyboard
15.6" 1366x768 Generic with numberpad 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 5
You don't play game with high settings.

Next gen console will use a mixture of medium-high-ultra presets so they have to balance it.

If they want Eye candy, FPS will drop, thus 30 FPS is what will be comon for next gen titles.
post #5 of 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abs.exe View Post

You don't play game with high settings.

Next gen console will use a mixture of medium-high-ultra presets so they have to balance it.

If they want Eye candy, FPS will drop, thus 30 FPS is what will be comon for next gen titles.

 

On most TV's it won't matter.

War Machine
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 3570k Asus Z77 Sabertooth MSI GTX 770 2GB OC  Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
MTD 500gb Sata II HDD Seagate Barracuda 500gb Sata II HDD Samsung (S222A) DVD +/-RW 22x Dual Layer Corsair H80i 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64bit Home Premium Acer GD245HQ Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Corsair TX850W  
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec 900 Razer Naga Custom Skyrim Mousemat Eltax Monitor III Speakers 
AudioOther
Sherwood AX4103 Amplifier Microsoft Xbox 360 Control Pad (Black) 
  hide details  
Reply
War Machine
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 3570k Asus Z77 Sabertooth MSI GTX 770 2GB OC  Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
MTD 500gb Sata II HDD Seagate Barracuda 500gb Sata II HDD Samsung (S222A) DVD +/-RW 22x Dual Layer Corsair H80i 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64bit Home Premium Acer GD245HQ Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Corsair TX850W  
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec 900 Razer Naga Custom Skyrim Mousemat Eltax Monitor III Speakers 
AudioOther
Sherwood AX4103 Amplifier Microsoft Xbox 360 Control Pad (Black) 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Graphics Cards - General
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › Graphics Cards - General › Why are next-gen consoles struggling to run games @ 1080p?