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It's amusing to think that if Mantle does have the claimed performance boost

There is no claimed performance boost, they just talked about believing there is a certain improvement, abstractly. Some gullible people heard the "900% faster draw calls" and thought it means 900% faster performance but even AMD would deny that, easily. In all likelihood Mantle would offer between 0% or worse performance difference (if the programmers are incompetent) and around 2% for good basic usage with some rare programmer Wizards possibly achieving more (4%? 10%?), because we are not in the 1990s anymore, general purpose APIs are already not involving the CPU/main system extensively hence you have to know what you are doing, not just using it for the sake of using it.
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It'll be more than 2%.
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It'll be more than 2%.

We'll see. I expect surprising things from the best coders in the video game business (even if we do not know if it's the API or only their skill that did it but let's assume they'd put the same effort on both NVIDIA and AMD). Then again, I would not be surprised if from other game designers you'll see nothing impressive.
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yes the way they worded it it makes it sound like just two cards, but didnt they say they used only two gpus for a bf3 or bf4 presentation or whatever, turns out it was two 7990s?

Not sure if this discussion been concluded upon yet, but Linus confirmed the Dirt3 4K setup was indeed only 2 R2D2's, rather than a 3- or 4-way setup
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We'll see. I expect surprising things from the best coders in the video game business (even if we do not know if it's the API or only their skill that did it but let's assume they'd put the same effort on both NVIDIA and AMD). Then again, I would not be surprised if from other game designers you'll see nothing impressive.

Johan Andersson of DICE spearheaded a 2+ year effort with AMD for 2% gain. what a joke. lachen.gif Let me tell you 20 - 40% is a realistic estimate. you are just hoping its not a lot of difference. biggrin.gif
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2% is just hilarious. It'll be 10 times that...
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Who really knows, and we won't know until we have some independent and real world reviews. Until then, it could be whatever you want it to be ...but that's the beauty of a hype train
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Johan Andersson of DICE spearheaded a 2+ year effort with AMD for 2% gain. what a joke. lachen.gif Let me tell you 20 - 40% is a realistic estimate. you are just hoping its not a lot of difference. biggrin.gif
I estimate is 10-20%. tongue.gif
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Who really knows, and we won't know until we have some independent and real world reviews. Until then, it could be whatever you want it to be ...but that's the beauty of a hype train

come on. Johan is probably one of the most brilliant engineers in the industry in the league of Tim Sweeney (Epic) and John Carmack( Id ).he knew what perf improvement (atleast a minimum) he was likely to get and the effort to design Mantle. so do you really think he went through all the effort for less than 20% improvement. This guy has been working on consoles for a long time and knows exactly how efficient they are. its few people who own Nvidia hardware that are hoping BF4 Mantle doesn't crush BF4 DX 11.1 . thumb.gif
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come on. Johan is probably one of the most brilliant engineers in the industry in the league of Tim Sweeney (Epic) and John Carmack( Id ).he knew what perf improvement (atleast a minimum) he was likely to get and the effort to design Mantle. so do you really think he went through all the effort for less than 20% improvement. This guy has been working on consoles for a long time and knows exactly how efficient they are. its few people who own Nvidia hardware that are hoping BF4 Mantle doesn't crush BF4 DX 11.1 . thumb.gif

I am from country, so i don't know John, Tim and Johan. I do know bubba, and bubba says until you seen it, don't believe it ..or you are gonna get dealt a hand from the bottom of the deck...I am going with bubba on this one thumb.gif
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