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Hi all,

I posted earlier with concerns about choosing which processor to go with on my next build, and received exactly what I needed to dive in and work out what I want (thanks!). I don't play games, which makes normal recommendations difficult to translate rolleyes.gif So it was important to go have a look at prices and specs on my own. I'm going AMD 8350 with this computer. I feel that the FX 8 cores will give me the best price/performance for what I intend to be doing: coding, network management, folding/BOINC, and virtualization.

Oh, and in the meantime, my current desktop decided to cut out, and $70 in "stimulus" funding hasn't gotten it back on it's feet. So I'm advancing my timeline a little.

Plan:
- Get a working computer.
- Work out the storage situation (ssd - hdds - RAID - NAS).
- Wait for ATI 9000 series graphics cards to hit, then buy two 7xxx and Crossfire them. I could really use some feedback on this, I'm running four 1080p monitors.
- Install another 10/100/1000 NIC
- Build a water loop.

Deadline:
- I'm purchasing the base parts today.
- Everything else by May 2014.

Base system (Just get a computer together) (linking to the place I intend to purchase from):
- Corsair C70 Mid tower (newegg)
- Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 (newegg)
- AMD 8350 (amazon)
- Cooler Master Hyper T4 (no overclocking on air, will it handle well?) (newegg)
- Mushkin Blackline 16GB 1600 (again, never used this brand before... thoughts?) (newegg)
- Arctic Silver 5 (amazon)
- Samsung 840 EVO Series 120GB (amazon)
- Seasonic X-850W (amazon)

Base parts total: $994

Thanks for looking this over,
-CTAG
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Good choice on the 8350, but you can get it from newegg for $180 as well, which will consolidate your orders.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

Case is fine, but kind of expensive. If you're a big fan of the looks, go for it. If not, might I recommend the excellent Fractal Design R4 (multiple colors, with or without window available). ($85)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75050&vpn=FD%2DCA%2DDEF%2DR4%2DWH&manufacture=Fractal%20Design&promoid=1258

Motherboard is pretty darn expensive, especially since you're not asking all that much of a motherboard. I'd recommend moving to an ECS A990FXM-A for $128. Also handy in that it already comes with two gigabit ethernet ports standard. What do you plan to use that for, anyway?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135345

The Coolermaster T4 will be ok for a slight overclock, I guess.

Nothing wrong with Mushkin, but you can do better for memory. Here's a 2x8gb kit (to be preferred above 4x4gb) at a faster speed for a little less ($130)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226425

Heatsinks should come with their own thermal compound. But if you must have a third-party solution, at gets go with the much more up-to-date MX4:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186038

Saving on case an motherboard would allow you to afford a 250gb SSD. Could be worth it to you. ($177)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=87761&vpn=MZ%2D7TE250BW&manufacture=Samsung%20Memory%20%26%20Storage&promoid=1258

The real question I have is: do you need GPU processing power for your virtualization programs? Because otherwise I don't see a point to spending much on a video card. You can run four monitors on any old modern card. Even Nvidia has finally gotten around to 4 monitors on a single card (I think). This can significantly affect your PSU choice as well. The Seasonic X-series is, of course, excellent. But unless you're into quiet computing it's kind of pointlessly expensive. For instance you can get a perfectly good XFX 850w for $125
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=78945&vpn=P1850BBEFX&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1258

And since I doubt you really want/need to crossfire (even if you do want a professional GPU for some of your programs, crossfire is frequently a a bad solution), you can go for a good 450w PSU if you're not going to need to run power-hog video cards. (A Rosewill Capstone 450w is $63 right now.)

Unless you have demand for the computing power of a professional GPU or a 7970, I'd suggest just grabbing this for your multi-monitor needs:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125453
(note: video outs are 2x DVI-D, HDMI, and VGA. So at least one of your 4 monitors would have to be hooked up to VGA, and you'll have to make sure your current cables can fit DVI-D. On the other hand, four video outs). Any Nvidia 6xx series or AMD 7xxx series that has video outs that work for you should do the job.

If you're into silent computing, I'm sorry to report the passively-cooled 7750 Sapphire produces only has 3 video outs.
    
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G850 ASRock H61M-GS MSI Twin Frozr 650ti Patriot 2x2GB 
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Oh man jealoussmiley.gif I was told this thread was suspended, then wasn't notified when it went live or got the normal email-subscription. Arg.


MisterFred,
Thank you for the exhaustive suggestions! Unfortunately I needed to migrate from "picking components" to "they're shipping" sadsmiley.gif

I found the 8350 for the better price smile.gif But I guess I've missed out on the other money-savers.
I love the look of that Fractal R4 case, I'll keep it around to consider next time thumb.gif

I don't plan to overclock until I learn how to build a water loop.

SSD size shouldn't change much, I'm mostly going to be dealing with NAS systems.

Now, gpus. I don't need much power at all, and I really didn't know that quad screens was available on one card! But I do need DVI/HDMI for all four.. It would be worthwhile to me to pick up two larger gpus for the four screens and devote the wasted power to BOINC projects. Does that sound like a plan that would work?

Seasonic was an absolute, I nearly burned down a dormitory last year because of a scam psu..

Thank you again, I'll be back after school and see if I can elaborate or clear things up.
-CTAG
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