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If everything in SSD then if course SSD wins. How about for this case? Actually this always happen when someones plays a lot of games or uses a lot of programs.
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for desktop use SSD + HDD wins
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i hope someone can do a real test and compare.
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I have no issues having most games and unimportant/huge on my 2 TB HDD, i barely notice any difference over my SSD. Plus, SSHD's are slower than a separate HDD+SSD setup, os you wouldn't even get the full speed of it. IF you're using a desktop it makes no sense, the only way it is reasonable to get an SSHD is on a laptop where storage is limited, and then again, you could get options to add a second HDD.

There are exceptions, like with games with tons of loads (like Skyrim), but they are jsut that, exceptions. And those exceptions can happily live on my 128 GB SSD, and if i were a bit more selective with what i install, even a cheaper 64 GB SSD would do.
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I have no issues having most games and unimportant/huge on my 2 TB HDD, i barely notice any difference over my SSD. Plus, SSHD's are slower than a separate HDD+SSD setup, os you wouldn't even get the full speed of it. IF you're using a desktop it makes no sense, the only way it is reasonable to get an SSHD is on a laptop where storage is limited, and then again, you could get options to add a second HDD.

There are exceptions, like with games with tons of loads (like Skyrim), but they are jsut that, exceptions. And those exceptions can happily live on my 128 GB SSD, and if i were a bit more selective with what i install, even a cheaper 64 GB SSD would do.

I think most of the model famous big games are very heavily load directly from files in the game folders. For example, I play a lot of sc2 too, it is very heavily loaded from the game folder data, and I guess very little from the OS. So I assume of it is OS in SSD, then heavily load from harddisk would make the speed actually just around the HDD speed since even OS part is fast then still need to wait for HDD to load all game data, OS in SSD doesn't help that at all. May be I am wrongly but I just guess from logical thinking.

Most of the games are at least 10GB nowadays, with around 25GB for OS in a 60GB SSD, not much left for games and suppose to leave around 20% to 25% free space in SSD to have good performance.
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for desktop use SSD + HDD wins

Can you explain more why do you think so?
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The conclusion of this thread really help me or anyone to decide to get a SSHD or SSD+HDD. I am really thinking which one, but then I am also waiting to see the new WD SSHD comes out and how Seagate reacts to that, if I finally decide to buy a SSHD, then Seagete may needs to have a big price cut because of WD offers a better deal of SSHD.
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Can you explain more why do you think so?

Unlike a laptop where you might be limited to just one harddrive cage, in a desktop environment you can stack up as many mechanical drives you want for all your media type files while you can also put in as many SSDs you want for an OS drive and maybe even another drive for media editing or a gaming drive.

Essentially, you aren't limited to just a SSDHD with 4gb of flash memory and a 750gb-1T mechanical drive. I, for instance, want both the storage, and the speed, so I have two 1Tb hard drives in RAID0, 1 256GB Ssd, a 64Gb ssd, and a 500gb 2.5in "media drive"

Since I'm not limited by space, I can afford to have a completely customizable setup.
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I commented on this in another thread while back. My wife who is NOT a techie geek, was on an all SSD system and I did some upgrades. She needed more space so I pulled on of her SSDs and left one for the OS and apps and used a WD Black for her Steam drive. She almost immediate noticed that her system felt sluggish, her words. When I explained what I did I was forced to go out and get here a new 240 gig SSD for Steam before she would be happy.

Forget the benchmarks, once you go pure SSD even fast spindle drives feel slow.
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The conclusion of this thread really help me or anyone to decide to get a SSHD or SSD+HDD. I am really thinking which one, but then I am also waiting to see the new WD SSHD comes out and how Seagate reacts to that, if I finally decide to buy a SSHD, then Seagete may needs to have a big price cut because of WD offers a better deal of SSHD.
It's really about how much of a "hands on" approach you want to have. A SSHD WILL be an improvement overa standard mechanical drive. The overall "feel" of your PC will improve due to the flash memory caching all the oftenly used OS files.

It's also an easier solution for those that don't want to have to deal with micromanaging two drives and ALWAYS balancing what you want on your SSD and what you want on your mechanical drive.

I first started off with a 64gb SSD as my OS drive. I hated it because once I got Windows and a FEW other programs, I always had to micromanage how I handled large files that wanted to be in that drive. I removed this headache by purchasing a 256gb SSD.

I actually use my 64gb as a cache drive for my RAID0 setup now. Not only is my RAID0 quick, recently used games and programs are also cached on my64gb ssd and accelerated as you'd expect. Another great solution that gives you the most options in the future
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