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Funny how everyone here is a biometrics expert all of the sudden.

I know right.... And how apparently easy it is for OCN users to get fingerprints.

I have a feeling this would be a different discussion as always, if this technology was on a different branded device...
post #22 of 63
I hate Apple MORE than the next guy but this is a little silly. So basically these 'hackers' defeated it the same way anyone would defeat any fingerprint scanner, I'm not seeing any Apple specific flaw here.

Yeah biometrics is an imperfect security system, but it's good enough for about 99% of Apple phone users. The President of the United States probably shouldn't keep his nuclear launch codes on his iPhone, but honestly I've seen home and car security systems that are easier to breach than this. Security still has to still be practical, I wouldn't want to enter a 30digit alphanumeric passcode just to log into my phone every few minutes.
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Looks like it read his fingerprint through a regular piece of tape.
I guess if you're motivated enough...

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Either way that's quite an operation. Still seems secure though. If I lose my phone, is someone going to magically have availability to a quality print to go through those steps, just to unlock my phone? iPhone criminals and the like aren't this clever or patient I'm sure. I'd take my chances. Cool it's been defeated though, was only a matter of time given the high profile.

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Yea if you don't use it. All I see are smudges. Meh

Still not sure how biometrics are less secure. Unless you're carrying vital information in your phone that's worth a lot of money or something, no one is going to go through all this effort. None of us are that important.

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Funny how everyone here is a biometrics expert all of the sudden.

Awfully defensive about this...

It doesn't take a specialist to read about the shortcomings in biometrics. As stated several times before, it's just a fingerprint scanner, most of which that have been bypassed in the same way.
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Breaking news: Biometrics can be circumvented.
post #25 of 63
um dont you need to have a backup passcode just in case anyway? I dont think it was meant to be more secure than a passcode, just more convenient.
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Awfully defensive about this...

It doesn't take a specialist to read about the shortcomings in biometrics. As stated several times before, it's just a fingerprint scanner, most of which that have been bypassed in the same way.

What shortcomings? That it can be circumvented with quite a bit of effort? The android fanbase is trying to pass it off as incredibly insecure, I'm just asking why, but you keep deflecting, acting like you're a biometrics expert telling me to "research it," as if that's something you've already done. The arrogance of you folks is quite astounding really.

For someone to pull of this trick, they'd have to have a quality fingerprint and work through all those steps. But they'd have to do it within 48 hours before the phone deletes it's biometric information. They'd have to do it without the phone being turned off or the battery dying, or the phone deletes its biometric information. They'd also have to do it before the user remotely wipes the phone.

So again, can you explain how this is not secure?
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didn't mythbusters already crack fingerprint scanners...ya they did.
Yea, this is why nuclear plants and other high security establishments uses eye scanners. It's too easy to replicate a finger print, you can pick it up from literally anywhere. It's part of human nature to be constantly touching things, which is the downfall to this kind of security. All it takes is someone to walk up like they know you and shake your hand to lift a print. And just like that your security is compromised.
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It is actually a lot easier then that. Fingerprint readers are not secure.

Biometric readers are not secure.

Explains...

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Funny how everyone here is a biometrics expert all of the sudden.
thanks biometric expert
post #29 of 63
I'm still trying to figure out where this guy keeps making the leap that someone needs to be an expert on biometrics in order to be aware of the countless articles out there on the subject.

Did you buy one, and now you're butthurt? I seriously don't understand the overt defensiveness.
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post #30 of 63
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Funny how everyone here is a biometrics expert all of the sudden.

Funny how you just need a rudimentary understanding of it, to know it's flaws.

A long pass-code that gets rotated every so often, will always be more secure than biometrics.
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