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Arc Mini, TJ08-E, or Arc Mini R2?

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Alright y'all, I'm having some difficulty deciding on the proper case for my system. I've already had one case fail in my attempts, so I'd like to make the next one be the last one. I'll go ahead and list my components and intentions, and hopefully there will be some good suggestions.

I'm trying to build a high-performance, yet compact gaming rig. Everything in the following list is bought, just waiting for a new case to house them.

CPU: i5 4670k
CPU Cooler: NH-D14 or H80/100
MOBO: Asus Maximus VI Gene
GPU: Sapphire HD 7990
RAM: G.Skill Sniper 16gb DDR3 1600
PSU: Corsair AX 860
Storage: 1x256gb Samsung 840 EVO and 1x1TB WD Caviar Black

That should be everything for right now. The main concern is keeping the HD 7990 in check. The beast was getting up to the high 80's Celsius, and even maxing at 90-91 at times in the old case. In other words, way too hot for extended use. I'd put the cause down as mainly due to the size. Considering the case was equipped with 2x120mm front fans as intake, and a 140mm top fan plus a 120mm rear fan as exhaust, there should have been enough airflow, but I think the cramped internals just made everything cook each other.

I'd like to try to stick with air cooling if possible, but I wouldn't mind having the option for water cooling later on down the road.

I really like the size of the TJ08-E, and I've heard great things about its cooling potential with the 180mm front fan, but the 7990 brings the topic of cooling to another level. I'm just not sure that the size of the case will offer enough room for everything to breath, as I believe was the issue with my previous case.

The difference between the Arc Mini and the R2 version, is that the R2 seems to be more geared towards water cooling with the movement of the side 120mm fan to the top for the option of a 360mm rad up top. Otherwise, they're basically the same. How much difference do you think the 120mm fan in the side panel would make with cooling the gpu? Also, if I do decide to go with water cooling later on, 2x240mm rads should still adequate for a full gpu and cpu loop right?
post #2 of 8
Have you considered Corsair 350D? It has 2x front 120/140mm, 2x top 120/140mm, and rear 120mm.
post #3 of 8
I have a TJ-08e and love it. Quiet for the most part (mine is on the floor under my desk) but I don't have a 7990 lol. I know those things can get hot, which i am assuming will get the fans spinning up quite a bit more than my old oc6950. Keep in mind that your board is flipped 180 in the tj08 so the fans will be pulling air DOWN from the top of the case, which has the psu top mounted.

The front fan with the HDD cage in it kind of tunnels air straight to the cpu cooler in your case, which will be moving the air directly out the rear of the case. The 7990 will be on its own for exhausting, so as long as you have a stock blower style fan on it, getting fresh air wont be an issue, but if you are rocking an aftermarket cooler, it will churn stale air and you will see temps bump unfortunately.

Like I said, I love my little case, but there are some other options out now that have it whipped IMO, the 350D is one that comes to mind, and it has a stock option for a window thumb.gif not to mention the extra's designed for standard water-cooling if the urge ever comes up.
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Originally Posted by xXPeonXx View Post

I have a TJ-08e and love it. Quiet for the most part (mine is on the floor under my desk) but I don't have a 7990 lol. I know those things can get hot, which i am assuming will get the fans spinning up quite a bit more than my old oc6950. Keep in mind that your board is flipped 180 in the tj08 so the fans will be pulling air DOWN from the top of the case, which has the psu top mounted.

The front fan with the HDD cage in it kind of tunnels air straight to the cpu cooler in your case, which will be moving the air directly out the rear of the case. The 7990 will be on its own for exhausting, so as long as you have a stock blower style fan on it, getting fresh air wont be an issue, but if you are rocking an aftermarket cooler, it will churn stale air and you will see temps bump unfortunately.

Like I said, I love my little case, but there are some other options out now that have it whipped IMO, the 350D is one that comes to mind, and it has a stock option for a window thumb.gif not to mention the extra's designed for standard water-cooling if the urge ever comes up.

Thank you for the explanation of how the cooling works with the TJ08-E. Considering the 7990 has a tri-fan cooler, I don't believe this would be the best orientation for it.

I have also looked at the 350D, but the reviews I've seen don't place it very favorably with cooling potential (air). The Arc Mini is essentially the same exact case, as a 240mm rad will fit in the top, and the front can be modded for the same. The original Arc Mini seems to provide better options for cooling the gpu than the 350D though, considering it has a 120/140mm side fan that blows directly on the gpu, as well as a bottom 120mm that blows up into the same general region. The only reason I'm considering the R2 is that it actually fits a 360mm rad up top, and a 240 in the front.

I appreciate both of your responses and the information provided. +1
post #5 of 8
I'm looking between the Arc Mini and Arc Mini R2. Is that the only difference in the R2, that it fits a 360mm rad up top and 240mm up front? That really doesn't change anything for me, so I might take advantage of the low price on the Arc Mini right now.
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That's really the only significant difference that I can tell. They basically moved the side fan mount on the arc mini to the very front-top of the R2. I believe the R2 also comes with a windowed side panel as a result. As far as internals go, the dimensions are exactly the same, the R2 has one extra USB 3.0 slot in the front, and it has 2 dedicated SSD trays, whereas the Mini only has the 6 hard drive bays (which are compatible with SSDs anyway).

If you're sticking with air cooling, I'd definitely say to go with the Arc Mini, as the side fan mount provides a lot of extra airflow compared to a case without one. The Arc mini can also still mount a 240mm rad up top, and probably a 240mm on the front as well with a tad bit of modding.
post #7 of 8
I would actually prefer it without the fan hole in the side of the case. I've always found it to be very silly and detrimental to air flow since it interrupts the front to back flow typical of most cases.

I will be putting a Corsair H110 on the top, and using only one or 2 fans in the front and one at the back of course.

I do really like the SSD mounts at the back of the R2 version. I did not realize the original didn't have this. I might end up going with the R2 just for the slick SSD mounts. biggrin.gif
post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 
It sounds like the R2 may be a little more suited to your setup. However, the price of the original is hard to ignore.

I used to think that about the side fans as well, but I recently read an article that showed it actually provided the greatest reduction of temperature (at least for the gpu) compared to any of the other mounts, when in a 3 fan setup. It also seems to help with cooling in all cases (no pun intended), just not at such a high rate of return.

I'll try to post the article a little later. I know it was done by bit-tech...I think it's called the big fan investigation or something like that.
Edited by pcoutu17 - 10/2/13 at 2:45pm
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