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Hi everyone,

I am looking to water cool my GTX 580 dual SLi setup in a Haf X case, this is my first water cooling attempt so opinions and experiences with these parts, or perhaps even suggestions or amendments would be greatly appreciated.

All parts from http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk apart from the distilled water


Water block (for a GTX 580 Nvidia Reference PCB Design)

EK Water Blocks EK-FC580 GTX - Acetal + Nickel
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/EK-Water-Blocks-EK-FC580-GTX-Acetal--Nickel_38301.html
or
Watercool HEATKILLER® GPU-X³ GTX 570/580 Hole Edition Ni-Bl
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/Watercool-HEATKILLERreg;-GPU-Xsup3;-GTX-570580-Hole-Edition-Ni-Bl_25679.html

Pump/Res Combo

XSPC Dual 750lph Bay Pump Reservoir Rev2 Multi Fascia
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/XSPC-Dual-750lph-Bay-Pump-Reservoir-Rev2-Multi-Fascia_939.html
or
XSPC Dual 750lph Bay Pump Reservoir V4 - Black
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/XSPC-Dual-750lph-Bay-Pump-Reservoir-V4-Black_35511.html

Radiator

XSPC AX360 Triple Fan Radiator (Black)
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/XSPC-AX360-Triple-Fan-Radiator-Black_33649.html

Hose and Fittings

Primochill PrimoFlex LRT Advanced hose 16/11 mm - Crystal Clear, 1m (x3 or x4 incase of mistakes when cutting) - smaller by one size for a snug fit
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/Primochill-PrimoFlex-LRT-Advanced-hose-1611-mm-Crystal-Clear-1m_38447.html

Phobya Hose Clamp Hexagonal Socket 13 - 14.3mm black (for peace of mind only)
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/Phobya-Hose-Clamp-Hexagonal-Socket-13-143mm-black_22799.html

13mm (1/2") Barbed Fitting G1/4 With O-Ring (High-Flow SLI) (x6)
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/13mm-12andquot;-Barbed-Fitting-G14-With-O-Ring-High-Flow-SLI_19067.html

1/4 BSPP Variable SLI VID Connector 1/2/3 Slot Pack
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/14-BSPP-Variable-SLI-VID-Connector-123-Slot-Pack_960.html

Coolant & Extras

Distilled Water
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bobbys-Healthy-Shop-Distilled-Water/dp/B0035FF28M

Silver Anti Algae Kill Coil by Pulse Modding
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/Silver-Anti-Algae-Kill-Coil-by-Pulse-Modding_1173.html



Many Thanks
Edited by NoobModder 18 - 9/24/13 at 7:48am
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Why Halfords Battery Top-Up Water 5L? Why not just use distilled water? They don't sell it where you live? No fan choices yet? I still like the Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm - 1450 RPM fans though they're expensive per a fan. Can't really see the fin spacing on that radiator you might need the much faster 1850 RPM fans.
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There are no places which sell pure distilled water where I live, I have read customer reviews on the product and a couple of people have used it in a computer system. Should I consider ordering the coolant along with the rest of my parts from watercoolinguk instead?

The fans I'm using are 6 coolermaster jetflo 120mm fans in a push-pull configuration.
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Originally Posted by NoobModder 18 View Post

There are no places which sell pure distilled water where I live, I have read customer reviews on the product and a couple of people have used it in a computer system. Should I consider ordering the coolant along with the rest of my parts from watercoolinguk instead?

The fans I'm using are 6 coolermaster jetflo 120mm fans in a push-pull configuration.

Nah you don't need any of those fancy colored coolants unless that's the theme you're going for. Distilled water by itself and some kind of biocide should be fine along with a silver coil. Just get distilled water wherever it's the cheapest for you. Here in the US it's cheap less than $1 USD for a gallon of distilled water that could be bought at most convenience or pharmacy stores. Hopefully you mapped out how you want to run your tubes and loop sequence cause that's where most noobies get stuck at.
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Hi anoob

I have decided to source some distilled water from amazon rather than the source originally posted in the thread, would you recommend any particular biocide to go along with the silver coil?

I've mapped out my loop and after doing so I think I should perhaps add a couple of angled fittings similar to these below to reduce any possible stresses on the connections.
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/EK-Water-Blocks-EK-PSC-Adapter-45-G14-Nickel-EN_38318.html
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Silver kill coil is used as a biocide (I believe by causing Ag4O4 or Ag2O which is toxic)... but it can also be devastatingly bad for your loop especially with nickel blocks. The other common biocide is PTNuke/Dead Water based off of copper sulfate (CuSO4) or PHN. I would not recommend CuSO4 with nickel blocks although I have done it with no problem there is great evidence that it is not a good thing to do. So that leaves PTNuke PHN or you can also use Ethylene Glycol based coolants or additives as they will kill algae and prevent corrosion where as normal biocides will either only kill algae or they will kill algae and make corrosion worse. Depending on where you live that could mean buying dazmode protector, feser base, or mayhems xt-1 concentrate. If none of those are available to you then you can use ethylene glycol based (traditional) engine coolant. Do not using dexcool engine coolant (not that it would cause problems but don't without doing research of your own and deciding if that is ok for you).

Why not to use kill coil

Those are pictures if you want to read about it just google kill coil on these forums and look at the pages that are complaining about them not at the ones that are just talking about them.
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Since Distilled water is not available in the stores in your location (Same here) can purchase Distilled water from a medical supply house.

givemedew PTNuke/Dead Water based off of copper sulfate (CuSO4) or PHN. I would not recommend CuSO4 with nickel blocks although I have done it with no problem there is great evidence that it is not a good thing to do.

So that leaves PTNuke PHN is based off CUSO4 = Copper Sulphate = PTNuke?

If I understand correctly to use Distilled Water with PT Nuke if you are using nikel plated water blocks? Copper Sulphate from what I understand is not good with nikel plated water blocks.

Im a little confused in one sentence if I am interpreting this correctly? CUSO4 or PHN does not mix well with Distilled water and nikel water blocks you must leave out the Kill Koil when using a Biosode product?

My bad interpretation or understanding of what you are saying.

Is it ok to use PTNuke with Nikel coated water blocks and Distilled Water no Kill Koil?

Providing your loop consist of Copper rads, brass fittings and nikel coated water blocks. No Aluminum. Of course there is foreign materials in brazing and soldering process.
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Hi givmedew

thanks for your input, researching various pages in the forum and looking at some of the images contained in the link you posted were quite shocking indeed, i have read up on a few posts were people do advise not to mix the silver with the nickel plated water blocks.

i would just like to ask something similar to what Google Eye did in the penultimate sentence of the post, would the following be suitable for the loop:

distilled water + pt nuke -phn and no silver coil, or would this damage my water blocks?

Thank you givmedew and Goggle Eye for your input into this thread, greatly appreciated.
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Hi givmedew

thanks for your input, researching various pages in the forum and looking at some of the images contained in the link you posted were quite shocking indeed, i have read up on a few posts were people do advise not to mix the silver with the nickel plated water blocks.

i would just like to ask something similar to what Google Eye did in the penultimate sentence of the post, would the following be suitable for the loop:

distilled water + pt nuke -phn and no silver coil, or would this damage my water blocks?

Thank you givmedew and Goggle Eye for your input into this thread, greatly appreciated.

Distilled water + PHN can't damage your water blocks... it wont stop your water blocks from being damaged (neither will silver or CuSO4) but it won't cause damage like Silver and CuSO4 could.

Again not a chemist but there is a difference between distilled water and deionized water. I mention this because I am not sure what battery top off fluid is and it matters a little bit. You want to use distilled water. I think battery top off fluid is distilled water not deionized but I don't know that for sure. I mention this because someone was talking about it. I don't really understand why certain countries would not have distilled water unless it is because there is no real utility to having it. I am not even sure myself why so many people buy it in the US but you can get it EVERYWHERE.
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Distilled water + PHN can't damage your water blocks... it wont stop your water blocks from being damaged (neither will silver or CuSO4) but it won't cause damage like Silver and CuSO4 could.

Again not a chemist but there is a difference between distilled water and deionized water. I mention this because I am not sure what battery top off fluid is and it matters a little bit. You want to use distilled water. I think battery top off fluid is distilled water not deionized but I don't know that for sure. I mention this because someone was talking about it. I don't really understand why certain countries would not have distilled water unless it is because there is no real utility to having it. I am not even sure myself why so many people buy it in the US but you can get it EVERYWHERE.

Yup, distilled water is plentiful in the U.S. it has a lot of applications

  1. Watercool your PC
  2. Used to mix with automotive coolant
  3. Used for lead acid car batteries
  4. Used by body builders
  5. Used in humidifiers i.e. for homes, for babies, for cigars and even expensive guitars
  6. Used in steam irons (I use it for my steam irons a lot, tap water creates minerals on my clothing mad.gif)
  7. Drinking

When you absolutely need the cleanest water you can get you get distilled water.
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