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Hello

I am 99.9% going to buy a QX6700 next week to finally complete my system but I have few questions I cant find definite answers to.
1) I have a choice of retail and an ES, regardless of price and warranty is there any reason to get the ES? I've heard that ES chips are "cherry picked" but is it fact or theory and what difference does it make?
2) Are both retail and ES versions unlocked multi from 6 to 20?
3) Any known issues with the P5W DH? I heard somewhere they will only go from 6 to 10 multi with the P5W DH?

Any help appreciated.
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post #2 of 16
First off, ES chips are Engineering Samples. They are made from the purest Silicon and they have a better overclocking potencial than the normal chips, however, this better chip will be wasted on air cooling - you need water or phase cooling to see the performance difference. So, defintally pick up the ES if you have a nice WC setup going. Also, the ES has unlocked multiplers which is better for overclocking since you can run higher FSB for a better 1:1 ratio with your ram. Example: 500FSB x 6 Multipler = DDR2 1000 when in a 1:1 ratio with your ram, plus, you are running a freakin' Quad-Core at 3.0 Gigs.

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post #3 of 16
The Core 2 architecture chips are an exception. They only unlock downward, not upward.

Go with the ES if you can.
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I've got watercooling, Swifttech Apogee Waterclock and the rest is custom but my Pentium D @ 4.6ghz only gets to 44 C at 100% full load for 9 hours.
I thought that because it is an Extreme Edition chip that the retail version would have unlocked multis? Some of the E6600 ES I've had a play with havn't had unlocked multis.
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post #5 of 16
Must be your motherboard's BIOS. Update it and you should be able to lower the multiplier.

Anyways, I'm off to bed.
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post #6 of 16
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Thanks for the replies.
Just wondering why would an ES chip be made better than the retail chips if they are test chips prior to public release? Wouldn't it make sense to have the ES versions the same quality as the public versions so the tests reflect the capabilities of the product the public will be using?
No disrespect Ninja_Boy, thanks for the info, but how do you know ES chips are made from the purest Silicon etc? Whats your source?
I hope its true because I will go buy the ES chip and get overclocking.
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post #7 of 16
They are better just because engineers need to work with the finest cpu's , i guess.
I would get the ES,
post #8 of 16
Get the ES no question and no choice
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post #9 of 16
As said the short Answere would be get the ES.
post #10 of 16
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Thanks for the replies, but I'm about to spend over $1000 on a CPU I'm actually chasing the long answer to this. No one actually has answered any of my questions.
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