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    Looking at your drive's SMART info, it is far from perfect:
  • Read error rate should be 0.  It is 68.  That means 68 times the HDD totally failed to read a sector.  When the checksum of a sector doesn't match the stored checksum, the HDD will try again and again to read the sector, sometimes for several seconds.  After some time, the HDD gives up, increments this number by one, and returns corrupted data to the computer.  During this time, the computer may hang or be sluggish to respond as I/O requests aren't being satisfied because the HDD is busy.  If the read request is many sectors long, the HDD could even be busy for several minutes.
  • In my experience, spin up time for most HDDs takes from 1 to 5 seconds.  Your HDD is taking 10 seconds to spin up, which seems a bit long unless you have a Green drive.
  • Recalibration retries should be 0.  Why did it have to retry recalibration once?
  • Write Error Rate should always be 0.  This HDD has failed 3240 sector writes, which means that it probably also has a couple of bad sectors.  The HDD will also retry writes as well, causing sluggishness just as I explained above for reads.

    I believe that your HDD is failing, even though SMART's failure metrics have not been fully satisfied yet.  If you don't have your data backed up, I strongly recommend that you get your data backed up before continuing with chkdsk.

    If all your important data is backed up, perhaps you could try running chkdsk to scan for bad sectors.  In many cases, it will identify them and move the data elsewhere, which should stop most of the hanging until the HDD develops new bad sectors.
    To run chkdsk on a partition:
  • If you're using Vista or later and have UAC enabled: Right-click the desktop and click "New\Shortcut."  Type "cmd.exe" and finish the wizard.  Find the new "cmd" icon on your desktop, right-click it, and click "Run as Administrator."
  • If you've disabled UAC, press [Win]+[R], type "cmd.exe" and press [Enter].

    Next, at the command prompt, type "chkdsk C: /f /v /r" (without quotes) and press [Enter].  On C:\, it will ask to schedule the disk check for when you reboot your computer.  Press [Y] for yes, and then reboot your computer.
    If you have created multiple partitions on the HDD, you will have to run chkdsk again for each one, replacing "C:" with the letter for each partition in turn.  For non-OS partitions, chkdsk may ask if you want to dismount the partition.  If you don't have any files or programs knowingly open on the partition, press [Y] for yes.  The partition will be taken offline while chkdsk is checking.
 
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Well...that might not be possible. I sort of tore it out of my computer last night in a fit of rage, and threw it on the floor. Upon reflection, this was far from my proudest or most rational act. It was carpeted...the floor, but I don't think that matters, because it won't spin up at all now. And now obviously my computer won't start.. Whoops!

I'm mostly disappointed because I had some videos and songs I was working on, and I lost a few solid evenings of work. I'm wondering if it's at all salvagable? I mean, i'm pretty sure it was dying anyway, but that data should still be in there and I should be able to transfer it to another drive if I can get it to spin up. It just kind of makes this odd sorta high pitched whirring noise, over and over and over. I can record it if it helps, but anywho, I thought i'd ask if there is any possible way to repair it. Maybe something on the inside just came loose? I have no idea.

And now I have to ask myself, Cheap HDD or shell out the 300 bucks for a 256gb SSD D:
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I would try throwing it in the freezer for a few hours?
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Could you explain how that might even work? I've read this other places but no one states why this is a good idea or more importantly how it could get my comouter to suddenly detect a drive it is not currently.

I figured worst case scenario for having a shot is id have to order the same or similar drive, and swap the platters from the not working to the new one. I'm very dubious about this freezer trick to say the least.
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    The freezer trick is supposed to free the platters to turn again if heads got stuck to the platters or to cause the spindle bearing to loosen up if it got too stiff.  I'm not sure that it would help in your case, however.  I've seen some people say that after you put the HDD in the freezer, you get one chance to use it, and then it's done forever because of the cold.  I personally cannot vouch for that, having operated HDDs in sub-zero conditions without any problems (one was an old computer providing a remote webcam stream out in the winter).  And I actually did a successful data recovery with the HDD and USB converter inside the freezer, operating for several days, copying data.
    One trick that I've used successfully to "unstick" heads from the platters is to hold the HDD by its sides (with the HDD's top facing you, and the bottom facing away from you) at arm length, and to give it a sharp twist in the axis of the platters' rotation (be careful not to hurt your wrist, and be careful to keep the twist in the axis of rotation).  This really only applies to HDDs that park the heads on the platters, near the spindle.  Other HDDs actually "unload" the heads onto a plastic ramp so that they are no longer on the platters, which eliminates the chance of head "sticktion."
    I am really skeptical of any success you would have swapping platters.  Chances are very high that you would end up with two dead HDDs, especially if your HDD parks its heads on the platters (at the spindle), because it is really easy to damage the heads when they can't be moved off of the platters.  Without seeing or hearing your HDD, I have no clue what is actually wrong with it (and after doing so, I may still have no clue).  If your data is really important, your best bet now would be to send it off to data recovery specialists (at the tune of $$$$). redface.gif
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If your data is really important, your best bet now would be to send it off to data recovery specialists (at the tune of $$$$). redface.gif

Nah. I had a few songs I was working on and some let's plays I hadn't uploaded and video montages I spent a few weeks on...but it was just hobby stuff. Kind of sucks, enough that i'll take a crack at it myself but won't spend actual money on data recovery....

I can and will upload a video of the sound it makes though later today. (:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knBPkyJjg1A

Here is a link to a video showing the noise it makes when I turn on my PC
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bump. If anyone can tell me what's going on here so I can potentially fix it?

I don't want to send it away or anything and I already have a new HDD on the way, but if there's anything I can try at home, i'd totally try it.
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    When I listened to your video the first time, I didn't hear anything except the short and sharp "beep" at 0:14.  Listening to it again just now, I think I hear a very faint mid-pitched (F above middle C on a piano) buzzing sound from the HDD that comes and goes: 0:10–0:14, 0:16–0:21, 0:23–0:28, 0:31–0:36, 0:38–0:43, 0:45–0:51.  Since I can't tell if the HDD is spinning up from the video, try putting the HDD to your ear and turning on the computer.  You should hear it start spinning up starting a second or two after power is applied, and ending 5–10 seconds later.  Otherwise, is it just making that buzzing sound?  If it is not spinning up, try what I mentioned in my previous post in the second paragraph about unsticking the heads.
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