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"That's how it works"

Well how it works right now, Is WRONG. And you sound like just like the networks and providers who are ignorant to how the world has changed--- you are obsolete

Then please suggest a Multi billion $ income stream to pay my 100,000s of employees and their benefits. Please do. Since the only way we make money is through marketing and advertisement and the chump change from cable providers.

I'll be waiting for you plan to somehow eliminate ads/minimize them with out be affecting my revenue stream.
     
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Any one think that the networks could survive with 50% less commercials but then people had to pay smaller HBO like fees? Like $2.50 a month and you can get a Network of your choice? Would people be interested in that? Though I am not sure what this would do to the over the air signals that like 4% of the US can actually receive without a massive ugly antenna on the roof that makes it look like you are trying to contact your mother ship or something...and cost as much as a couple years of programming.

Really it is the TV provider companies that need to change more than the networks I guess...I don't want 400 channels...I want about eight of them. Let us pay individually for them. I am sure that this would mean that networks like the home shopping network would go out of business...but nothing value will be lost. If people don't want to watch it, then they should be forced to pay for it. And commercials come from the cable provider as much as they do from the networks too. Heh, though wasn't this hopper thing only going to work on the major networks? So I would be able to hop over a commercial if I was watching the BBC or some other cable channel anyway.

of course they would. the problem is the stupid cable companies still want their cut, which they think they deserve for forcing us to in the age of high speed internet. basically they want us to pay 2x (for cable and internet), pay for channels we don't want, and give them commercial revenue.

if i could simply pay networks directly i would
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of course they would. the problem is the stupid cable companies still want their cut, which they think they deserve for forcing us to in the age of high speed internet. basically they want us to pay 2x (for cable and internet), pay for channels we don't want, and give them commercial revenue.

if i could simply pay networks directly i would

So how would those TV streams be delivers to your house?
     
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Then please suggest a Multi billion $ income stream to pay my 100,000s of employees and their benefits. Please do. Since the only way we make money is through marketing and advertisement and the chump change from cable providers.

I'll be waiting for you plan to somehow eliminate ads/minimize them with out be affecting my revenue stream.

Well, because of their stupid business practices and archaic business model. I don't subscribe to their services at all.

They see exactly $0 of my money.

How is that better for the cable television industry, genius?
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post #35 of 67
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So how would those TV streams be delivers to your house?


Heh the irony of it never gets old...I stopped using Charter Television service to stream TV over their Internet service. It is like a two for one sale...but better, since just having Internet is far cheaper. The Cable providers must realize people do this and I bet they foam at the mouth daily over it. I love it. All they'd have to do is fix their TV business model and I'd be back on that, but if they want to be a hard headed and unchanging I will sucker punch them all I can.

Cable companies could just take a back seat and start being Cable Internet providers. It isn't like that is a irrelevant market. I would gladly pay the network directly to get access to your content online. You could even have adds on the website used to host the shows. Then instead of the cable providers paying you for your content...you would take part of the money people pay you and pay the cable companies to deliver it. I'd bet the money would all even out in the end...maybe better since a lot of the fat would get trimmed off the steak.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 9/25/13 at 9:58am
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My suggestion could be that your huge network should consolidate with some other network or gasp, go out of business. The free market doesn't have room for everyone who thinks they need to start a network. And I sure hope no government bailouts will ensue for those failing business models in an oversaturated market
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So how would those TV streams be delivers to your house?

through the broadband i already pay for anyway? here's the thing that really upsets me. they still don't want to move to cable distribution for tv AND they are putting caps on my home internet at the same time. scumbags
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Well, because of their stupid business practices and archaic business model. I don't subscribe to their services at all.

They see exactly $0 of my money.

How is that better for the cable television industry, genius?

As I said, please propose a plan that would make it cheaper. Let's say we start at square one. There is no TV or cable providers and someone decides to invent it. You think one company has enough money and resources to broadcast/produce shows and lay their own network of cable?
O wait, that brings up the whole storm or cable providers partnering networks (read Comcast/Disney/NBC) and everything that comes with that.

Its your loss. You clearly want service but its too expensive and you're just showing the man how you feel about their practices. That's fine and all. Completely your choice.
     
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through the broadband i already pay for anyway? here's the thing that really upsets me. they still don't want to move to cable distribution for tv AND they are putting caps on my home internet at the same time. scumbags

And where do you get broadband from? And so you need a computer now as well.

The point is there will always be a middle man delivering your service. If all TV was distributed this way, bandwidth would be crushed. It would also reduce availability to the extreme as you are raising the bar for what someone needs to get it.

How many people have a computer that can even hook up to a TV? And what if someone actually needed the computer?
Edited by jomama22 - 9/25/13 at 10:01am
     
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And where do you get broadband from? And so you need a computer now as well.

i understand that. i just don't to pay 2x (ie for internet and cable) and be forced to get all the stupid channels i don't want. if i had a choice i would just be 1-2 channels for $5-10 bucks a month. why should i have to pay $40 for trash i don't want and a service i don't need (cable tv rather than just internet distribution?)

as far as having to use a computer? 90% of the time i'm watching netflix on my laptop. so whoopdeedoo big loss there
Edited by perfectblade - 9/25/13 at 10:13am
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