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Ok.. If someone had a chancewto to compare Those 2 models plz write here. But for sure open are better for gaming right? So there is 2 models left to choose instead od 3 ;-)( i mean PC 350 Se, they are closed)
Edited by Bulkas - 9/27/13 at 1:01am
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And ofc i gonna buy soundcard also
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And ofc i will buy sound Card also but i have to decide also which one
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Ok.. If someone had a chancewto to compare Those 2 models plz write here. But for sure open are better for gaming right? So there is 2 models left to choose instead od 3 ;-)( i mean PC 350 Se, they are closed)

The PC 350 is closed and has a terrible sound stage, so no-it will not be good for gaming. Open headphones are generally better for gaming, they usually have a wider sound stage. Which sound card you buy depends on what is more important to you, music or gaming. You mention most of the time you will be gaming, so I would recommend you find a good deal on a second hand Creative Titanium HD. It is well known as a very good sound card for gaming, decent for music as well.
Edited by Dctr - 9/27/13 at 1:21am
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Pc360 with a bad mic I'm guessing you have never owned one come on there mic is fantastic and much better than any zalman or mod mic.I suggest before you start giving opinions make sure you have auditioned the hardware. I have all of them and have done extensive testing and the zalman clips ons don't hold a candle to the mic that the senns come with. Even a basic test will show this, btw don't listen to every post unless they have auditioned every headset and headphone they are talking about. I've just got the feeling that there are a few people claiming that there hardware recommendation is the best without anyone hearing the alternatives. Sure a headphone and decent mic would provide the same as a headset. But you can't compare a $10 mic to be in the same ballpark let alone the hassle of 2 cords versus one. The dt990 is good but to be honest the bass alone drowns out positional cues and for fps it a little hard to hear footsteps and what not but if you Don't care about enemy positioning it is a fun headphone. The bass on the dt990 is very punchy with a mid and low bass hump. If you are after an exciting headphone go the dt990 beyers. For music I prefer the hd650 nice mid bass and warm mids and vocals. I do professional gaming and if my pc360 broke tomorrow I would buy another one no hesitations at all.
Edited by foreign03 - 9/27/13 at 6:24am
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Pc360 with a bad mic I'm guessing you have never owned one come on there mic is fantastic and much better than any zalman or mod mic.I suggest before you start giving opinions make sure you have auditioned the hardware. I have all of them and have done extensive testing and the zalman clips ons don't hold a candle to the mic that the senns come with. Even a basic test will show this, btw don't listen to every post unless they have auditioned every headset and headphone they are talking about. I've just got the feeling that there are a few people claiming that there hardware recommendation is the best without anyone hearing the alternatives. Sure a headphone and decent mic would provide the same as a headset. But you can't compare a $10 mic to be in the same ballpark let alone the hassle of 2 cords versus one. The dt990 is good but to be honest the bass alone drowns out positional cues and for fps it a little hard to hear footsteps and what not but if you Don't care about enemy positioning it is a fun headphone. The bass on the dt990 is very punchy with a mid and low bass hump. If you are after an exciting headphone go the dt990 beyers. For music I prefer the hd650 nice mid bass and warm mids and vocals. I do professional gaming and if my pc360 broke tomorrow I would buy another one no hesitations at all.

The microphone sticks out a long way and isn't very bendable. The bass is boomy, poorly defined and not very powerful.... in game explosions will give you plenty of one-note action. The treble is dull and lacks any real definition or detail. The sound stage is poor- positional audio in games relies on sound stage and definition of sound. What is this "professional gaming" that you do? If you were a professional gamer you'd at least know the importance of a decent sound stage in a competitive scenario.
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I also strongly recommend you steer away from the Sennheisers, they are ridiculously overpriced and sound like crap, not even their mic is all that good. Just buy a decent pair of headphones and attach a quality mic to it such as the Antlion ModMic.

Overpriced yes but they don't sound like crap and the mic is good. I have used both and I prefer the mics on the Sennheiser headsets as the noise cancellation is quite good and keeps a lot of background noise out. The ModMic doesn't do a very good job of cancelling out the background noise and it's quite noticeable how much it picks up when recording the mic. I imagine it would be a nightmare using it at a lan event.

They are both good mics but there are situations where I wouldn't use a ModMic like say if you have a mechanical keyboard with cherry blue keys or you have multiple machines running in the room.
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Reading over your previous post your knocking a whole brand Sennheiser?? Next you will be trying to get the OP to buy beats lol. Pc360 bass is neutral not boomy btw. It has a good soundstage for a headset. If the op was listening to music or movies I'd recommend another headphone for immersion. I agree with you on the pc350 not a very good headset. To the OP what games do you play and what sound charecteristics are you looking for in a headphone or headset? There is always the beyer dt880 semi open. It has decent bass for an open can and has nice mids and good soundstage aswell. If you really enjoy bass then the dt990 would be the alternative. Or the mmx300 beyers they are closed though but they are a headset, if you prefer the all in one.
Sound is very subjective you will never get 10 people in a room to all agree on the best headphone. What someone likes would be why the other person dislikes it.
Edited by foreign03 - 9/27/13 at 3:24pm
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Overpriced yes but they don't sound like crap and the mic is good. I have used both and I prefer the mics on the Sennheiser headsets as the noise cancellation is quite good and keeps a lot of background noise out. The ModMic doesn't do a very good job of cancelling out the background noise and it's quite noticeable how much it picks up when recording the mic. I imagine it would be a nightmare using it at a lan event.

They are both good mics but there are situations where I wouldn't use a ModMic like say if you have a mechanical keyboard with cherry blue keys or you have multiple machines running in the room.
+1 sometimes the mod mic tends to sound nasally and hearing keystrokes can get a little frustrating for the listeners on teamspeak
Edited by foreign03 - 9/27/13 at 4:40pm
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Overpriced yes but they don't sound like crap and the mic is good. I have used both and I prefer the mics on the Sennheiser headsets as the noise cancellation is quite good and keeps a lot of background noise out. The ModMic doesn't do a very good job of cancelling out the background noise and it's quite noticeable how much it picks up when recording the mic. I imagine it would be a nightmare using it at a lan event.

They are both good mics but there are situations where I wouldn't use a ModMic like say if you have a mechanical keyboard with cherry blue keys or you have multiple machines running in the room.
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Reading over your previous post your knocking a whole brand Sennheiser?? Next you will be trying to get the OP to buy beats lol. Pc360 bass is neutral not boomy btw. It has a good soundstage for a headset. If the op was listening to music or movies I'd recommend another headphone for immersion. I agree with you on the pc350 not a very good headset. To the OP what games do you play and what sound charecteristics are you looking for in a headphone or headset? There is always the beyer dt880 semi open. It has decent bass for an open can and has nice mids and good soundstage aswell. If you really enjoy bass then the dt990 would be the alternative. Or the mmx300 beyers they are closed though but they are a headset, if you prefer the all in one.
Sound is very subjective you will never get 10 people in a room to all agree on the best headphone. What someone likes would be why the other person dislikes it.


Oh dear, looks like you two have fallen for product marketing. You don't have to spend hundreds of dollars on gaming oriented crap simply for a good mic. Many decent ones can be found cheap.
I never ever mentioned beats I would never recommend such crap to someone, and no- its not worth paying $300 for a mic alone. I'm not trying to bag out Sennheisser I just know the PC350 is overpriced crap and worth nothing but a cent. And yes for gaming alone the MMX300 are the best headphones you can get. Not great for music though, fairly hollow mid range. Unless you are a professional gamer and you play at esports or do voice recording and have to have the clearest mic ever, a standalone or clip on mic will be perfectly sufficient. Pair that with quality headphones such as the: Audio-Technica ATH-AD700/AD900, Alessandro MS-1, AKG-242HD and you will get the best value for money while achieving really good sound.
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