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If Nvidia or AMD could have tripled the performance of their card comparable to their competitor by making a proprietary API and getting some developers to use it, I think they'd probably have spent a few million dollars following that path.
I think 20-40% is probably in the ballpark (probably closer to 20%, but we'll see). I find it impossible to believe that DirectX is more than halving the theoretical performance of our video cards and no one has been rasing a stink about it up until now. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

ok well, maybe i exaggerated a bit but still a low level access api like the consoles is likely to give amd a big advantage in fps ....
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You'd be suprised at how inefficient high level code can be. Just ask any GPU programmer.

How low mantle goes remains to be seen, but confined to one architecture, DX has a ton of room for improvement.
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You'd be suprised at how inefficient high level code can be. Just ask any GPU programmer.

How low mantle goes remains to be seen, but confined to one architecture, DX has a ton of room for improvement.

So true. Not a perfect example but Java back in the day was a dog.
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You'd be suprised at how inefficient high level code can be. Just ask any GPU programmer.

How low mantle goes remains to be seen, but confined to one architecture, DX has a ton of room for improvement.

saw some apu bench and software for handbrake improved 100% there with software.
good hardware needs good software.
drivers can do so much.
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Mantle is going to break gamers out of windows prison. I plan on kicking M$FT in the ***s on my way out smile.gif
Edited by TempAccount007 - 9/27/13 at 12:36pm
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Man I gotta say, as a Titan owner, and nVidia die hard (haven't owned ATi since 9700 and 9800 Pros), I'm really getting a chubby over Mantle.

If it can provide some serious performance it's going to be a game changer.

The reality is that even if nVidia comes up with their own API, in the best case scenario I feel it might lack in comparison to Mantle, simply because of AMD and GCN's relationship with the next gen consoles.

Obviously I'm not thrilled with the idea of jumping ship to AMD... I will wait to see the Battlefield 4 benchmarks.

But if they deliver, I'll switch teams no hesitation.
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Coming from an AMD die hard (I have owned an NVIDIA 8800 but everything else was either 3dfx or AMD/ATI) I am preventing myself from getting hyped on this. I just can't see an API coming out and making true game changing gains. I would love to be proved wrong on this but I am expecting nothing more than a 20% if even that. (Please AMD prove me wrong I game on 3 monitors and would love a bump in performance without having to buy a second card!)

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Edited by dookiebot - 9/27/13 at 2:03pm
post #108 of 2769
We need more information on it. What they gave us was nice, but was less then half of the whole picture.

Would be nice to see mantle in things besides EA projects. But that's just me.
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A 12 year old playing BF4 on the PS4 he got for Christmas will have similar graphics to a guy that spent thousands on his PC thumb.gif
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A 12 year old playing BF4 on the PS4 he got for Christmas will have similar graphics to a guy that spent thousands on his PC thumb.gif

7,000$ for my tri-titan tri-monitor system. Which i'm pretty sure next gen will not have multi-monitor support.

I think i'll keep my subscription free computer. Over a 500$, will most likely break once a year, console.
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